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reply posted on 24-1-2004 @ 10:42 AM by TrueLies
Originally posted by krankinkx
Do you believe there should be any form of social programs?
You sound pretty Conservative. (I am not criticizing you, I am only asking.)


I do believe there should be some kinds of form of social programs, but the problem I have is that there are too many of them, and alot of them don't do #.

I don't have a problem with someone needs a boost for a little while to get on their feet, but when people are getting money from welfare for along period of time because they can't get off their ass, then I have aproblem. These people know they are lazy, they know it in the back of their minds.

I went to college with this girl that was in my politics class and she was pissed because some guy said " I hate people that are on welfare because all they do is sit on their ass, don't bother to get a job ect"...
Now he was stereotyping everyone who's on welfare and putting them in the same box.

This girl was angry because she was a hard working mom of 2 trying to get an education, pay her bills, and be a parent at the same time.

I don't have a problem with those kinds of people.
They are trying to make their way in this world, not sit on their ass all and no nothing...

So yes, I agree there should be programs, but I also think that if we are going to have them people should be certain requirements....

I would like to see a drug test taken for those who are seeking welfare, I would like to know their reasons why they are on welfare, and why they can't work...

THey will get angry and say that is an invasion of their privacy but if i'm going to be giving my tax dollar's away, i'd like to know who it's going to...

And while I do have "conservative" beliefs, i'm also pretty liberal, and when I say liberal, I don't mean socialist.

the Heritage Foundation's Center for Data Analysis has developed the "Index of Dependency." The index charts the growth of five categories of federal programs that substitute for similar initiatives from lower levels of government or private organizations:
America's growing dependence on "entitlement" programs.
"Americans are becoming increasingly addicted to government, and politicians are becoming the dealers of the drug named 'dependency,'" DeMint said.

Everyone Line Up at the Trough

"Everyday in America, more and more people are receiving benefits from the federal government, getting their income and their health care from the federal government, and fewer and fewer people are paying for it," he said.
"We must figure out how to convince people that they are most secure when they hold their own future in their own hand, that they're most secure when they're most free," DeMint added.

Government dependency is the "antithesis of liberty,"
"Those who get government housing forfeit the right to determine where, how, and with whom they live. Those who get food stamps have given up the choices as to where and for what to shop, and those who depend on government for education have given up the ability to choose where their kids or how their kids are going to be taught," he said.

Kirsanow believes there are now more than 100 major federal programs that foster dependency.


Housing assistance: 30 percent.

Health and welfare support: 25 percent.

Retirement income: 20 percent.

Post-secondary educational subsidies: 15 percent.

Rural and agricultural services: 10 percent.
The percentage after each category is the "weight" of that individual category in the index, based on its relative importance.
the weights center on the year 1980 because that year is believed to mark "the beginning of the decline of left-of-center public policy and the emergence of right-of-center challenges" to those policies.

Therefore, when the historical data dating back to 1962 and projections through 2020 are viewed, the year 1980 appears as a "100" on the graph.




I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP CUTTING AND PASTING THIS ARTICLE, BUT THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT... PEOPLE CAN DENY THIS ALL THEY WANT BUT WHEN YOU SEE THIS KIND OF RESEARCH BEING DONE, IT MAKES ME WANT TO


WHY CAN'T PEOPLE WAKE UP??? IT'S LIKE SOMEONE BEING ADDICTED TO HEROIN, AND SAYING """WHHAAAT, I'M NOT ADDICTED, I DON'T DO DRUGS""""
or they'll give you the but speech.

"but but but but but...... blaaaah!


Look,

The top 25 percent of taxpayers pay 80 percent of all taxes, the bottom 50 percent pay only four percent of all taxes, and that doesn't include the millions who pay no taxes whatsoever, and those who pay little or no taxes are the ones most likely to access dependency programs.






reply posted on 24-1-2004 @ 08:47 PM by Minion
Originally posted by Colonel
Originally posted by krankinkx
I actually like it when he blows his mouth off. He shows you guys what an ignorant hypocrite he really is. I just sit back and laugh. Would you believe that he tried to pass himself off as a Law School Graduate??? I have a hunch "Jailhouse Lawyer" is closer to the truth.

I do try to refrain from feeding into his idiocy though. But when I put my fingers to the keyboard they have a mind of their own.


Ya know, I've kicked your monkey ass at least 3 times, USING YOUR OWN DAMN CASE LAW with your final response being some lame sterotypical racist taunt. Truly, I tire of you and your veiled racist comments, racist. However, you prove to each and everyone here that what I speak is true and correct.

Since you're a rookie, I suggest you read "The Colonel on Republicans" or "I hate Re;ublicans" started by me. So, say what you will and affirm to all here that read the truth of what I say: that you are repugnant and the spirit of Cain (evil) sits comfortably within you and the repugnants like you. And for that, you are destined to Hell. And the same compassion of conservatism you offer to those here, the demons of Hell will offer to you but 10-fold for eternity. Have a nice day.


[Edited on 24-1-2004 by Colonel]



haha, see its funny, because im black and i have no idea what your talking about!! believe me, when someone says something racsist, its blatant, i guess you can be called a " reverse racsist" by others.
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