Gay Greys?

Originally posted by Kacen
I mean might as well assume that when you get your prostate examined your doctor is doing it for sexual reasons.

That's the reason why I go to a different proctologist after every exam.

I mean, the guy could have been an internist, or an otio-laryngiologist. But no, he has to advance his career bass-ackwards. It's not like you get "trapped" in a career like that.


alimentary, my dear watson.

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Could their stealthiness (the flitting about the house) be explained by the lightness in their loafers?

LoL the thread title made me chuckle when I saw it but it is a decent question. more than decent, it's legit. Why do I say this?

Well in the animal kingdom here on Earth, it's not just Humans that behave in a 'gay way.' There's numerous accounts of mammals, fish and other creatures behaving homosexually.

Penguins for example:

At New York's Central City Zoo, in the penguin's enclosure, are two cuddly penguins, Roy & Silo. They behave and resemble most penguins, except for one unique trait that binds both birds together: They are both gay.

Not only do the penguins nest together, they built their own nests, engage in sexual activities, and have acted as surrogate parents when an egg was placed in the nests by their handlers.

Homosexuality, once thought to be a product of man's depraved sexual tendencies, it seems, has unwittingly drawn gay animals into the spotlight.

Other homosexual animals include:

1. The American Bison: This stocky, well-built animal has long been known by native Red Indians to engage in mounting, and full anal penetration. Mounting of one female bison on another female is also common.

2. At least 6-10% of male sheep engage in homosexual activities (makes one wonder where all the meat we get in supermarkets really do come from).

3. Pairs of male flamingoes have also been witnessed raising eggs of female counterparts.

Giraffes have all-male orgies. So do bottlenose dolphins, killer whales, gray whales, and West Indian manatees. Japanese macaques, on the other hand, are ardent lesbians; the females enthusiastically mount each other.

Do the research it's all out there on the Internet.

Also here's a SOURCE

Joan Roughgarden thinks Charles Darwin made a terrible mistake. Not about natural selection—she's no bible-toting creationist—but about his other great theory of evolution: sexual selection. According to Roughgarden, sexual selection can't explain the homosexuality that's been documented in over 450 different vertebrate species. This means that same-sex sexuality—long disparaged as a quirk of human culture—is a normal, and probably necessary, fact of life. By neglecting all those gay animals, she says, Darwin misunderstood the basic nature of heterosexuality.

Click the above link to read more.

So what ideas can we generate from this? Well if animals here on Earth show traits of homosexuality then why can't aliens from other planets? We can't prove it for or against at this moment. All we can do is look at what species do here on Earth. It could very well happen elsewhere around the Galaxy!

I wouldn't say that every alien who 'anal probes' is homosexual, but there's a possibility that some of the species could well be.

It definitely gives a whole new meaning to aliens anal probing people!

[edit on 28-9-2007 by Arawn]

reply to post by Arawn


So, all those articles that you posted.... do those animals actually have 'intercourse'? or do they mount each other and pretend to have intercourse?
I was under the impression that only humans could be gay, it most be genetics afterall (at least in most cases)

I can't believe I'm even posting here but:

Arawn,

Male animals engage in homosexuality for one reason and if you project that onto humans it is for the same reason.

As for Gray's, I don't have a clue as I'm not convinced that they even exist yet.

Of course you know what they say, Once you go Gray, probing will never have the same meaning again.

Originally posted by jbondo

Male animals engage in homosexuality for one reason and if you project that onto humans it is for the same reason.

......and that reason is???

Originally posted by hikix
......and that reason is???

I said what I had to say and that's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to drag this off topic.

I've made my views known in a couple of threads from last year. If you want to dig them up please feel free to do so. I really don't remember the specific headings of those particular threads.

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The American Bison: This stocky, well-built animal has long been known by native Red Indians to engage in mounting, and full anal penetration.

Up the ass penetration my dear friend. Humans aren't the only ones to do it.

reply to post by Arawn


Jeez, i was def not aware of this! Is the scientific reason that they are homosexual? or are they confused? Do the ones that are homosexual completely ignore the females?

Originally posted by hikix
Do the ones that are homosexual completely ignore the females?

From Wikipedia:

Some researchers believe it to have its origin in male social organization and social dominance, similar to the dominance traits shown in prison sexuality. Others, particularly Joan Roughgarden, Bruce Bagemihl and Paul Vasey point to that the social function of sex (both homosexual and heterosexual) is not necessarily connected to dominance, but serves to strengthen alliances and social ties within a flock. Others cast doubt on social organization theory, pointing to citing gay penguins that mate for life and refuse to pair with females when given the chance.

One report on sheep cited below states:

"Approximately 8% of rams exhibit sexual preferences [that is, even when given a choice] for male partners (male-oriented rams) in contrast to most rams, which prefer female partners (female-oriented rams). We identified a cell group within the medial preoptic area/anterior hypothalamus of age-matched adult sheep that was significantly larger in adult rams than in ewes..."

So it would seem from my findings mate that given the choice, animals other than humans seek a 'same sex' partner.

The greys can't be gay. After all. they don't wear clothes we're told. And without clothes a body can't accesorize. Elton John might be a gay alien, but not your everyday gray grey.

Man - I wasn't going to chime in. But what the hey...

Grays, like buffalo and other members of the animal kingdom, mount and rub and penetrate for one reason only - and it has nothing to do with procreation. Simple gratification is all, stimulation of the pleasure centers of the brain.

Now me, I prefer females (humans that is). But there is no denying that for some odd reason human males enjoy encounters in the company of multiple females more than they do multiple males (flip a few pages through ANY men's magazine to verify this). So, I'm not sure how much biology has to do with it (other than endorphine and hormone dynamics, etc.)

As of the Grays - I have my doubts. For one thing, all the grays look alike. Not just a little alike either - I mean dead ringers for each other, like they all were punched from the same mold or something. So if I was a Gray-dude, I don't see how one sex of gray would provide much different stimulation than any other. So if it's all the same - just do it, then have an alien-cigarette, pop open another beer and settle in for a little Alien Simpsons.

On the other hand, there is the argument that the Grays (indeed most aliens) are patently sexless - as in no interest, no organs, no need. Poor saps.

So maybe they're hermaphrodites (having both male and female sex organs), in which case they can have sex with themselves for procreation (if they still have the ability to do so - some think they don't), and sex with anyone they want if they have the mutual desire -and a vivid imagination - I think they'd need it.

Of course, they may be pseudohermaphrodites, having the sex of one on the inside, and the sex of another on the outside. This might explain why our "Alien Autopsy" filmmakers cleverly decided to obscure the crotches of our hapless alien buddy on the operating table. Not sure what we were being "shielded" from, but my guess is that there would not be much to look at there in any case.

Finally, they could be monoclinous, having both sex organs in all species, on the outside - and always raring to go (or not). I kind of discount this scenario since the mental visual I'm forming is turning my stomach and I don't want to consider it anymore...

So what conclusion can we draw? That the OP secretly is hoping for an impromptu encounter to float through his bedroom window? Nah. That Grays are descending upon the Earth in secret and in clandestine actions to spirit us poor schleps away for an hour or two of candid alien porn? Don't think so.

How about that the Grays are really just an old, overly evolved, self-absorbed, expressionless, impudent, contemptuous, race of tired space farers that are probably dying out and are roaming the galaxy in search of truth and salvation. They are neither gay nor straight, and really have no interest in human-type sexuality one iota. They consider us primitive, barbaric, unsophisticated, sluggish, and underdeveloped, and they would no sooner consider sex with any of us as than they would with any other beast on our planet. Of course, bestiality is a fetish among some humans, but the aliens simply consider that another example of our lecherous behavior rather than something they care to emulate.

Oh well - thanks for another thought experiment. The mental exercise was worth it - though perhaps the mods may think otherwise. In any case, all of your responses are interesting, valued, and worthwhile. I hope, that at least we can all become better at understanding each other. If the grays are watching, and perhaps chuckling (if they are capable of it), then they may think there is hope for us after all.

Thanks ATS!


[edit on 9/28/2007 by Outrageo]

Originally posted by merka
There is a flaw in that theory.

Why on earth would said gay aliens have to be male? In most species, the MALE is the one you want to kill first cause the female is often smaller/weaker by design.

So, we're probably looking at gay female grays.

I think I speak for us all when I say: Sweet...

LMAO an anal probe that was instituted by a Lesbian with huge eyes and grey/greenish skin...kinky....

Originally posted by merka
Why on earth would said gay aliens have to be male? In most species, the MALE is the one you want to kill first cause the female is often smaller/weaker by design.

You mean males on another planet? As far as I can tell for most species on Earth, the males are the smaller ones. Mammals seem to be the exception to the rule.. and even then there are still exceptions.