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Topic started on 18-9-2007 @ 07:18 PM by FaxMachine
Greetings

I live in europe and USA used to be my dream country. I always was envisioning my self living in the America, and i live in scandinavia that has the same living standards than USA. After 2001 i started to watch politics and actions of Americans and the current administration, i was discusted.

Today USA and part of europe acts like school yard bullies with NO rules except their own. Attacking innocent countries killing millions for profit, i have really really started to hate USA and part of europe. Now they are threathening Iran because they might develop nuclear weapons, and they don't have the right to do so.

If USA owns nuclear weapons, why couldent Iran have them? What gives permission for USA to have them if Iran cannot? I would understand this if every country would agree to dismantel all nuclear weapons, then it would be justified. Now USA has nuclear weapons and they have no right to stop Iran for having them, i don't care if Hitler was running Iran they still have NO RIGHT! This is attitude is the sole reason why world is not working.

I don't hate american people, i just wonder what are they thinking? If this would happen in my country, there would be revolution in no time. Actually there has been one not so long ago!

I would like to open a discussion where we would talk about this, why can't Iran have what USA has? It's unfair, no matter how crazy people live in Iran. If war breaks i will support the other side that was not the aggressor. I think most americans should do some self studying, i really do!

FaxMachine


reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 08:02 PM by FaxMachine
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This tells about your attitude that i see in some Americans (Not all). Let's not make this a trolling thread, let's dicuss in intelligent way.

I might have been overly aggressive with this post and for that i apologize, my feelings are just so strong its hard to contain my self.


reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 08:20 PM by TommyCrown
reply to post by 4thDoctorWhoFan


So there I was about to 'turn in for the night' (2.15am here), then I happen upon this thread.

When I become a member that green hair and beard just had me falling off my perch and it's still happening.
Seems you just deployed another round of awesome American firepower and I agreed with a fair bit of it.
But, give the guy a chance, with a thread title like that I can see this one running to several pages.

Goodnight! (or good morning)


reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 09:18 PM by Pfeil
This attitude of "Im not going to america because of their politics" is just as ignorant as any american attitude towards the world. Way to show us the way to the righteous path.

The reason you cant give Iran nuclear weapons is because they constantly and openly preech the destruction of Isreal and recently, foriegn troops in the Middle East. Why would you even consider giving nuclear weapons to people that seem like they wouldnt have a problem using them. I have no problem if a country wants nuclear power plants, but I do have a problem with countries that want to obtain nukes. This goes for any nation. I applaud Japan for resisting the calls to build a nuclear force.

I am against the Iraq war. Always have been. Bush and his cronies made it look like the Iraqis were the real threat and that we had to go over there before we were all killed. I dont know about most people in the US, but I have never met a Iraqi, let alone feel threatened by any, and out of all the nations of the world, Iraq would be one of the last I would list as a threat.

As for Iran, Im against any actions against them also. There has been much talk about air strikes on Iran facilities lately. This would be a huge mistake. But, like you said, the aggressor in a war between the Iran and any nation of the world would lose my support immediately. Like I said already, I have no problem with Iran have nuclear power plants but the constant talk of death and descruction is the single greastest reason for not letting Iran develop nuclear weapons.

As for this "holier than thou" attitude that I have seen by mostly Europeans. Are european nations not just as reasponsible for what the US has done since 2001? When Bush said "your with us or against us" most european nations fell right into a perfect line behind Bush. All except France that suffered the wrath of light trade sanctions, oh my! Its ashame that all those people that say that america is a bully live in nations that has done nothing to oppose what the US did and dont do anything to oppose what the US is doing.

Inaction of some can be just as destructive as uncontrolled actions of others, together the results are horrible.

[edit on 18/9/07 by Pfeil]
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