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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 01:39 AM by mikesingh
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Originally posted by internos
If i'm correct, it seems that the triangle is a natural formation
(comparison Clementine / Orbiter
You're right on the dot! I've tried all the filters I could, but nothing in that pic looks artificial. It's a natural formation.
Dang! Sorry to spoil the party! 
Cheers! 
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 03:15 AM by mikesingh
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Oops! Duplicate post!! 
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 03:22 AM by mikesingh
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Zero, that pic was taken from a presentation given by Dr Garvin, chief NASA scientist during one of his proprietary presentations at Orlando. Thanks
to Zorgon, (Who else?) for getting hold of it from….oh well, probably a spook from a three lettered org!!
Here’s the link below. If it was an Earth fossil, I wonder what that pic was doing in a Mars presentation! What’s its connection with Earth
fossils? And why bring it up now and that too in a restricted unpublicized presentation on Mars and term it EXTRAORDINARY?
Here's another one from the same presentation, termed 'Unfathomable'! Looks artificial, doesn't it?
www.thelivingmoon.com...
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 01:36 PM by vintage65
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This is an alien base on the moon that nasa fail to hide properly! Sounds far fetched I know but its true as very soon everyone will know the truth.
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 03:49 PM by internos
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 10:11 PM by internos
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 11:07 PM by IgnoreTheFacts
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That crater looks natural to me. Perhaps your lack of understanding science, space, and astronomy leaves you open to consider some pretty foolish
ideas, perhaps not. But I would encourage you to do a google search on crater formation and some light should be shed on this.
Of course, some who want to believe bad enough to ignore common sense, reason, logic, and current scientific understanding will only sit there and say
that crater was artificially made to look like a natural formation....if that is the case then your a freakin' genius, 'cause you caught 'em, lol.
Way to go.
[/sarcasm]
deny ignorance
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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 11:17 PM by internos
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Since i don't want to feed the TROLLS, i'll ignore you.
You don't deserve any answer and i haven't time to waste with you.
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 02:24 AM by Lunica
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This is indeed a very interesting one. Great find!!
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 02:34 AM by Chorlton
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Originally posted by internos
Since i don't want to feed the TROLLS, i'll ignore you.
You don't deserve any answer and i haven't time to waste with you.
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But you dont have an answer thats obvious.
Its quite obvious to anyone with the most basic of knowledge how craters are formed and of their possible decay yet you make posts with lots of
pictures of totally natural craters and ask suggest preposterous reasons for totally natural phenomena.
Yes there are anomalies on the moon, same as there are on the earth, but to come to totally outrageous reasons for those anomalies, without any
scientific or technical knowhow or knowledge is ridiculous.
You continue ignoring people sunshine. Thats what people who want so much to believe, yet dont have the evidence do.
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 02:44 AM by internos
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Originally posted by Chorlton
But you dont have an answer thats obvious.
Its quite obvious to anyone with the most basic of knowledge how craters are formed and of their possible decay yet you make posts with lots of
pictures of totally natural craters and ask suggest preposterous reasons for totally natural phenomena.
Yes there are anomalies on the moon, same as there are on the earth, but to come to totally outrageous reasons for those anomalies, without any
scientific or technical knowhow or knowledge is ridiculous.
You continue ignoring people sunshine. Thats what people who want so much to believe, yet dont have the evidence do.
What is ridiculous is that people like you states that i claimed something that i've NEVER claimed. Don't try to deceive the people, here all are
smarter than you.
I've had a question: if you aren't able to provide an answer i don't see the reason of your post: you're free to express your possible explanation
to the mutation: BTW: i think it's a natural phenomena but i would like to know HOW it works, NOT to be trolled.
Strangely, you're attacking me in the moment that i talk about TROLLS.
Are you maybe defending the category?
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 02:53 AM by Chorlton
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YOU made an insulting post at a contributor here with this post:
"Since i don't want to feed the TROLLS, i'll ignore you.
You don't deserve any answer and i haven't time to waste with you."
He does deserve an answer but you had none. If you had a question to ask you should have asked it rather than being rude.
Effectively it was you being the troll and not he.
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 03:01 AM by internos
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Chorlton, i've already made my question, and that was:
"What's going on with this crater (Alpetragius)???"
Ande he wrote to me:
"That crater looks natural to me. Perhaps your lack of understanding science, space, and astronomy leaves you open to consider some pretty foolish
ideas, perhaps not. But I would encourage you to do a google search on crater formation and some light should be shed on this.
Of course, some who want to believe bad enough to ignore common sense, reason, logic, and current scientific understanding will only sit there and say
that crater was artificially made to look like a natural formation....if that is the case then your a freakin' genius, 'cause you caught 'em, lol.
Way to go.
"
This is offensive to me.
Just to let you know, i starred three times posts post by IgnoreTheFacts in the last twelve hours here on ATS.
Simply i don't accept to be offended without reason. I still wondering the why. If ITF is able to teach me something i'll be glad to learn.
But so far he just insulted me.
Or maybe there was an hidden sarcasm?
If it's so, i apologize for it, if it isn't so, what i wrote is correct.
Please, correct me if i'm wrong
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 03:26 AM by ArMaP
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Could you be more specific?
I don't see anything that could make you say something like that.
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 03:35 AM by internos
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Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by internos
Could you be more specific?
I don't see anything that could make you say something like that.
www.lpi.usra.edu...
www.lpod.org...
Once compared these two pics, taken in different years, i just noticed that theyr insider appearence looks totally different.
My question was if this is normal in a lunar crater or if it isn't, since i don't know. If i knew the answer, of course i hadn't questioned about
it....
Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. However, we were not psychologically ready for it
We still come across publications trying to find an answer to the following question: Are we alone in the universe? At the same time, the presence of
reasoning beings has been detected close to our home, on the Moon. However, this discovery was immediately classified as secret, as it is so
incredible that it even might shake the already existing social principles, reports Russia's newspaper Vecherny Volgograd.
Here is an extract from the official press-release: “NASA scientists and engineers participating in exploration of Mars and the Moon reported the
results of their discoveries at a briefing at the Washington National Press Club on March 21, 1996. It was announced for the first time that man-made
structures and objects have been discovered on the Moon.” The scientists spoke rather cautiously and evasively about these objects, with the
exception of an UFO. They always mentioned that the man-made objects are possible, and stated the information was still under study and official
results will be published later.
It was mentioned at the briefing as well that the Soviet Union used to own some photo materials proving the presence of such activity on the Moon.
And, although it wasn’t identified what kind of activity it was, thousands of photo- and video materials from the Apollos and the Clementine space
station showed many parts on the lunar surface where this activity and its traces were perfectly evident. The video films and photos made by US
astronauts during the Apollo program were demonstrated at the briefing. People were extremely surprised why the materials hadn’t been presented to
the public earlier. NASA specialists answered: “It was difficult to forecast the reaction of people to information that some creatures had been or
still are on the Moon. In addition, there were some other reasons to it, which were beyond the control of NASA.
Specialist for lunar studies Richard Hoagland says that NASA is still trying to alter photo materials before they are published in public catalogues
and files. They do some retouching or are partially refocussing them while copying. Some investigators, Hoagland is among them, suppose that an
extraterrestrial race had used the Moon as a terminal station during their activity on the Earth. These suggestions are confirmed by the legends and
myths of different nations of our planet.
The ruins of lunar cities stretch for many kilometers. Huge domes on massive basements, numerous tunnels, and other constructions cause scientists to
reconsider their opinions concerning the Moon. How the Moon appeared and principles of its revolving around the Earth still pose a great problem for
scientists.
Some partially destroyed objects on the lunar surface can’t be placed among natural geological formations, as they are of complex organization and
geometrical structure. In the upper part of Rima hadley, not far from the place where the Apollo-15 had landed, a construction surrounded by a tall
D-shaped wall was discovered. As of now, different artifacts have been discovered in 44 regions. The NASA Goddard Space Flight Center and the Houston
Planetary Institute are investigating the regions. Mysterious terrace-shaped excavations of rock have been discovered near the Tiho crater. The
concentric hexahedral excavations and the tunnel entry on the terrace side can’t be the results of natural geological processes; instead, they look
very much like open cast mines. A transparent dome raised above the crater edge was discovered near the crater Copernicus. The dome is unusual, as it
is glows white and blue from the inside. A rather unusual object, which is unusual indeed even for the Moon, was discovered in the upper part of the
Factory area.... (more)
Source: Pravda
english.pravda.ru...
Since it has been reported this (and much more elsewhere),
i have ACTUAL reasons to gather (when i have the time) pics from certain areas which contains
any CLUE which suggests that there's someting not natural.
Since i'm not enoughly acknowledged to recognize what is natural and what it isn't on the Moon, i post the oddest pics here, because here there's
people able to give hints, opinions, suggestions and (sometimes) answers.
I think that this for me is much more interesting than watching at certains YT videos containig white dots on black background, balloons and
contrails, or webcams pointed to the sun, or birds or insects.
I know that many of these pics are explainable, maybe all, but nowhere in the T&C is written that it's prohibited to post them. I never claimed
"this is an alien spaceship", NEVER IN MY LIFE.
I just want to know more if i can, and i'm excluding something like 200 pics over 205 which i check, of course when i have the time.
Here we have seen hundreds of comment in topics about obvious fakes, and since the source of these pics is NASA, we can safely exclude the option that
they're hoaxes (i hope).
After said that, if one comes across one or more of these pics, and finds that he too notice the same oddness i noticed before, is a clue, IMHO. If
ten people over ten notices the same oddness, maybe there's something which deserves to be investigated, that's all.
I don't see what's wrong in this construction. No one is forcing the people to watch at these pics, if this is a waste of time, is a waste of MY
time, no one else should worry for this. 
Everyone is free to click on the "ignore" link above my avatar.
If someone says "there's nothing in that pic" i'll appreciate it.
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 08:00 AM by ArMaP
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I think that the differences are the result of two things:
1 - The direction from where the light is illuminating the crater.
2 - The definition of the two photos.
Having only two photos with different illumination is difficult to say if there is something really different from one photo to the other, although
some people may say that I am again talking about tricks of light and shadow, I always talk about it because our vision depends on the light we
see.
Also, one of the photos has a more blurry look, making even more difficult to say if there is anything different from the other photo.
So, I think that those two photos are not the best to make a comparison.
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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 08:25 AM by mikesingh
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Originally posted by internos
No one is forcing the people to watch at these pics, if this is a waste of time, is a waste of MY time, no one else should worry for this.
Everyone is free to click on the "ignore" link above my avatar.
If someone says "there's nothing in that pic" i'll appreciate it.
Cool, peace!!  Relax internos. No need to get that blood pressure up! You'll find plenty of posts on ATS that would make you climb the wall! And
haul you over the coals for your opinions! Worry not. Bash on, regardless!
Having said that, I agree with ArMaP. We would need to get hold of a couple more pics of that crater to rule out light/shadow effects. Interesting
observation though!
Cheers!
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 11:13 AM by andre18
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Has anyone ever seen the movie ‘space odyssey’? This picture looks just like the monolith. Freaky, it’s like story of the movie is coming true,
all that needs to happen now is wait until 2010 for Jupiter to turn into a sun.
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 04:29 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by Havalon
Quite interesting site even has a e-mail adress for you! 
Thanks for the link
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 04:34 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Here's another one from the same presentation, termed 'Unfathomable'! Looks artificial, doesn't it?
The thing about THIS one is that in the small image you can see the artifact... Unlike the trilobite which is NOT in the large files of "Humphrey"
this one is... if we can only find the original...
Maybe we can enlist Skipper on this one... he has time... and we can share the discovery
As of today.... still no response from Dr Gavin
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