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Originally posted by LoveHina
Just wanted to add a remark here for all you skeptics and believers. None of you can prove anything at this point. Not one of you can prove or dis-prove anything that has to do with anything on this subject/these topics. It's all shady pictures and generally 2nd-hand hearsay/rumors on one side... and the other is just flaming and trolling the believers and not proving anything themselves either. It seems most here don't actually have an opened mind... and are narrow minded in their own ways.
And being a moderator on ATS doesn't let you decide what is a hoax and what isn't... You can't prove anything as well.... so get off all high horses and get out of all glass houses please.
Originally posted by waveguide3
Originally posted by stikkinikki
Has anyone duplicated the FAST videos yet? How were they made? This has never been answered to my satisfaction. Maybe I missed it among the myriad of UFO threads at ATS. I have seen the allegations (proved at this point?) of theft of previous UFO pics but I have never seen anyone describe what we are looking at in the FAST videos.
Whenever I have asked in the past it's always met with a diversion to some other part of the story. WHAT is in the FAST videos?
It's the FAST videos that got me into ATS. I'm a super sceptic when it comes to astronomical revelation and telescopic phenomena on YouTube. As an amateur astronomer with plenty of high tech kit, I asked Gridkeeper a lot of questions about the objects that John Walson was supposedly filming. All I got back was flim flam and side stepping. Subsequent videos showing Walson in discussion with a well respected astronomer convinced me of the hoax.
It was pretty clear to me that the objects shown are not located at great distances, but are fairly close to the telescope. It's related to depth of field effects and factors involving focus changes in some of the videos. Anyway, after a bit of experimentation, I believed I could reproduce, at least to my own satisfaction, what is actually going on. I believe Walson's technique involves taking videos of UFO models located maybe a hundred metres or so from his 'scope. ...