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Palestinian rocket blast wounds 50 Israeli soldiers

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posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 01:40 AM
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Palestinian rocket blast wounds 50 Israeli soldiers


www.foxnews.com

JERUSALEM —  A Palestinian rocket exploded in an Israeli army base early Tuesday, wounding 50 soldiers and drawing Israeli calls for a major military operation against rocket squads in the Gaza Strip.
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posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 01:40 AM
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It looks is back to business for Hamas, have they got tired of killing their own? Hopefully Israel respond accordingly and put this guys in place once and for all.

Is an obvious effort to provocate Israel to attack and send any kind of negotiations with Abbas on a bad route.

www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 05:19 AM
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these are legitimit targets
not cuvilians and after the Israeli forces did enough damage in the west bank.
by firing missiles and so on. if these were cuvilians it would be a diffrent story.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 05:41 AM
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Mmmmm... Troops and equipment already deployed for a strike into Gaza and ...Hey Presto!... a rocket attack providing the excuse to move in.

I tend to find these coincidences a wee bit fishy after so many



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 05:54 AM
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I have to say, a pretty powerful attack from a terrorist group, don't you think?

Hamas has NEVER pulled off an attack on this scale.



these are legitimate targets


I'm sorry, but NO ONE is a "legitimate target"



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
I'm sorry, but NO ONE is a "legitimate target"


they are when they are your dootstep ready to launch another air strike and incursion into your country (or provance, what ever u want to call the west bank)



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul

Originally posted by infinite
I'm sorry, but NO ONE is a "legitimate target"


they are when they are your dootstep ready to launch another air strike and incursion into your country (or provance, what ever u want to call the west bank)


"launch another air strike"?

I don't recall reading that in the article or from other sources either. Seeings rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel, a recognised sovereign nation and a member of the United Nations, it has a right to defend and protect it's citizens from terrorists.

Plus, Hamas refuse to recognise the State of Israel, so how can there be peace?



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:30 AM
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It has been quite a bloody week already in Palestine, as ever, with hundreds of people being restricted movement, check point beatings, and the killing of a 17 year old boy in his home only two days ago, and two days before that a 14 year old was critically wounded, a shepard beaten by settlers, as well as 10 people killed and over 30 arrested.

The war between Palestine and Israel has never ceased its fire.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

"launch another air strike"?

I don't recall reading that in the article or from other sources either. Seeings rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel, a recognised sovereign nation and a member of the United Nations, it has a right to defend and protect it's citizens from terrorists.

Plus, Hamas refuse to recognise the State of Israel, so how can there be peace?


do you read the news?
Israel have been launching air strikes into gaza several times

also the palistains have a right to defend them selves from israeli aggresion



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Subcomandante
It has been quite a bloody week already in Palestine, as ever, with hundreds of people being restricted movement, check point beatings, and the killing of a 17 year old boy in his home only two days ago, and two days before that a 14 year old was critically wounded, a shepard beaten by settlers, as well as 10 people killed and over 30 arrested.

The war between Palestine and Israel has never ceased its fire.


I`d say that justifies a retaliation against a military base.

I`m pretty skeptical of this whole event - I`ve seen numerous videos and file footage / photos of the rockets they tend to use, and for the most part - if they actually explode - they tend to be powerful enough to make a mess of one`s lawn, and not much else. The only casualties seem to be when they manage a direct hit.

50 soldiers wounded? I doubt it.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul
do you read the news?
Israel have been launching air strikes into gaza several times


Yes, but you said that Israel was about to "launch another air strike", which it wasn't.

The people of Palestine want peace with Israel, but Hamas in Gaza, have implemented a military regime that is denying Palestinians democracy and basic rights. Do YOU watch the news? Did you see the clamp down on civil rights on the Gaza strip since Hamas has taken power? And the creation of an Islamic state, which the secular majority do not want.

Israel isn't to blame for that.

Plus the majority do not support Hamas.



also the palistains have a right to defend them selves from israeli aggresion


The aggression is against a terrorist organisation who has taken over the Gaza strip and created an authoritarian regime against the citizens of the area. Which refuses to recognise a United Nations member.

How come you refuse to talk about the human right violations that Hamas has committed, but simply focus on Israel?



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:45 AM
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Hang on:
Fox is now saying 40 wounded


JERUSALEM — A Palestinian rocket exploded in an Israeli army base early Tuesday, wounding more than 40 soldiers as they slept in their tents and drawing calls for a major military operation against militants launching rockets from the Gaza Strip.


CNN says 70 wounded




posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

The people of Palestine want peace with Israel, but Hamas in Gaza, have implemented a military regime that is denying Palestinians democracy and basic rights. Do YOU watch the news? Did you see the clamp down on civil rights on the Gaza strip since Hamas has taken power? And the creation of an Islamic state, which the secular majority do not want.

Plus the majority do not support Hamas.



HAMAS WAS ELECTED.

The clamp down on civil rights, the worsening conditions, the lack of cash - all of these things stem from the simple FACT that Israel pressured western governments NOT to accept the results of the election. And they complied.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul

Originally posted by infinite
I'm sorry, but NO ONE is a "legitimate target"


they are when they are your dootstep ready to launch another air strike and incursion into your country (or provance, what ever u want to call the west bank)


What? That doesn't even make the slightest sense....

These where new recruits in training. The reason there was so many injuries is because they where SLEEPING in TENTS that where very close together.

Pathetic Bodrul, the hypocracy is simply amazing. But what should I expect, we know how you side, and it should be no coincidence your Arab.

This attack, along with all the other attacks that occure DAILY which are mostly aimed at CIVILIAN targets are un provoked, but of course now there will be an Israeli movement back into Gaza because these ignorant fools can't seem to act decent for even a day.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by vox2442
HAMAS WAS ELECTED.

The clamp down on civil rights, the worsening conditions, the lack of cash - all of these things stem from the simple FACT that Israel pressured western governments NOT to accept the results of the election. And they complied.


Excuse me?

Let's cut the bias here.

Did Israel FORCE Hamas to perform a coup in Gaze? No.

Did Israel FORCE Hamas to create an Islamic society? No.

Did Israel FORCE Hamas to deny civil rights? No.

The West accepted the results but did not want to communicate with a government that refused to recognise a United Nations member?

Would you want communication with a nation that refused to recognise the United States, UK, France, etc? No, of course you wouldn't

Again, let's not be bias when it comes to Israel.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Yes, but you said that Israel was about to "launch another air strike", which it wasn't.

The people of Palestine want peace with Israel, but Hamas in Gaza, have implemented a military regime that is denying Palestinians democracy and basic rights. Do YOU watch the news? Did you see the clamp down on civil rights on the Gaza strip since Hamas has taken power? And the creation of an Islamic state, which the secular majority do not want.

Israel isn't to blame for that.

Plus the majority do not support Hamas.



How can you say that Hamas is denying Palestinians democratic rights when they were the party democratically elected? It was Israel that said they shouldn't be allowed to take power, therefore it was Israel that was clamping on Palestinians democratic rights. Hamas has done more on a personal level for the Palestinian people than Fatah were doing.

And as for peace, yes, everybody wants peace over there. Except the Israeli government. Their offer was that not only do Hamas recognise Israel as a state, but that they immediatly disarm their armed wing. How could they agree to that? It would immediately take away any defence the Palestinians have. It would be like going into Ireland 30 years ago and asking the IRA to give up all their weapons, whilst refusing to recognise Sien Fienn as a political party.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Subcomandante
How can you say that Hamas is denying Palestinians democratic rights when they were the party democratically elected?


Hmmm...let me see,

Firstly, when the government was sacked, it performed a military take over in Gaze and forced an Islamic society on to the population,against their will, rounded up opposition members and cut down on civil liberties in Gaza.

That's not democracy.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Did Israel FORCE Hamas to perform a coup in Gaze? No.

Did Israel FORCE Hamas to create an Islamic society? No.

Did Israel FORCE Hamas to deny civil rights? No.




Israel were flooding the Fatah party with weapons to oust Hamas from Gaza. So yes they did put Hamas into that position, they just didn't think they'd win.

Gaza is not a secular Islamic society at the moment. There hasn't been laws created against Christians or Jews living there. The same cannot be said for Israel.

And what civil right violations do you speak of?



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Subcomandante
How can you say that Hamas is denying Palestinians democratic rights when they were the party democratically elected?


Hmmm...let me see,

Firstly, when the government was sacked, it performed a military take over in Gaze and forced an Islamic society on to the population,against their will, rounded up opposition members and cut down on civil liberties in Gaza.

That's not democracy.



Neither is not allowing a government voted in by the people to reign. The military action was started by Fatah aswell, Hamas were retaliating. And there was more rounding up of opposition members in the West Bank than in Gaza. Leading members of Fatah were even given amnesty to leave Gaza.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Subcomandante
Israel were flooding the Fatah party with weapons to oust Hamas from Gaza. So yes they did put Hamas into that position, they just didn't think they'd win.

Gaza is not a secular Islamic society at the moment. There hasn't been laws created against Christians or Jews living there. The same cannot be said for Israel.


Again, lets not twist this all back to Israel.

To say the Hamas takeover in Gaza is to do with Israel is very childish and a bias view on the problem.

Hamas are not perfect. They may not have passed Islamic laws, but they are forcing an Islamic society, women have been forced to cover up and clamp down on freedom of speech has begun.



And what civil right violations do you speak of?


Watch the news and don't turn a blind eye..

www.haaretz.com...
hrw.org...

Again, try not to bias on this subject.



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