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reply posted on 27-8-2007 @ 02:36 AM by PaddyInf
reply to post by ChrisF231



This is not the topic of the thread. There are plenty of other US vs the World threads - try using these.

Topic is IR evasion. The most useful method of evading Thermal detection is to create a busy thermal background while making your own thermal signaure look less like that of a human.

In basic terms, the human body has an extremely recognisable shape, particularly to other humans. One of the key principles of camoflage and concealment is to remove or disrupt this shape when viewed by another party. That is why you see pictures of soldiers running around with hedges sticking out of their helmets. They're not tryintg to look like a hedge, they're trying to look less like a person. It breaks up the shape of head-shoulders-4 limbs-torso.

This technique is obvious in the visual spectrum, but what about the thermal one? Well, many materials have varying IR reflective properties, as have been in previous posts. If you are aware that a tracking party have thermal capabilities, your best option is to move into an area with a large thermal signature, such as an industrial area. This is most effective in summer months, as metalic objects soak up heat during the day and emit this in strange ways at varying temperatures. This will present multiple thermal signatures to confuse TI equipment. In such environments, the operator will attempt to distinguish which signatures are human and which are machinery/metal.

Methods of disguising shape vary from simply curling up into a ball to using dedicated thermal reflective equipment. Thermal blankets are available and are quite effective, but are costly. They are actually quite lightweight, but retain heat like a bugger. This will cause dramas if you use it while moving. Differing materials in the environment can be hidden behind, but again this involves static evasion, which is not optimal against a well-drilled hunter force.

Unfortuantely there is no be-all-and-end-all method for the evasion of thermal equipment for any real amount of time, particularly if moving. A man on foot will immediately attract attention as the mark 1 eyeball will immediately be drawn to movement.

Thermal equipment is probably the single most effective piece of detection equipment available to a hunter force. However it is not perfect and can be fooled for short periods. I'm afraid that the only method of ensuring you're not picked up by such equipment is by not being in an area where it is deployed.


reply posted on 27-8-2007 @ 12:04 PM by Now_Then
Couple of good tips here.

So far as personal IR evasion he pointed out that intense summer heat 96 - 100 def F is close enough to body temp to help the blending in process, suppose knowing that and using other disguising methods / not sticking out like a sore thumb would help a lot.

Another one is a poncho made with a metallised thermal mat and a wool run moistened so as to act as a evaporative radiator for your body heat.

He also goes into radar evasion for individuals and vehicles - that was basically shredding magnetic tape (from VHS and cassettes) and mixing with paint or glue so that can be applied to objects that would reflect radar.

Here's his main page - take from it what you will


reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 12:10 AM by angryamerican
reply to post by CANADIAN-guerilla



Welcome to the ATS survival forums, glad to hear from our neighbors up north. I don't know for sure if your idea would work but I am willing to bet that somebody here does.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the British did a similar thing in WW2 with a air field. they painted shadows of planes and tanks on the ground and then the pretend air fields were bombed not the real thing.

That seems to be the same principle as what you are talking about. just a decoy. I don't think a fire would be necessary thow. Probably just prop it up on a few sticks and put three to 4 candles underneath. I think a fire would be too easily identified while candles would have a better chance of going undetected. As long as there wasn't hot spots from those candle I think it would work.


reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 12:16 AM by dntwastetime
reply to post by angryamerican



The Allies actually had tank shaped balloons, and trucks they put all over the land to mimic a army invading from ......I forget where the distraction army was placed. I believe Montgomery masterminded, and implemented this tactic to fool the Nazis.


reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 11:20 AM by Now_Then
Originally posted by dntwastetime
reply to
post by angryamerican



The Allies actually had tank shaped balloons, and trucks they put all over the land to mimic a army invading from ......I forget where the distraction army was placed. I believe Montgomery masterminded, and implemented this tactic to fool the Nazis.


When I was a teenager doing the Ten tors on Dartmoor, actually in the run up training weekends, we came across some 'tanks' in a valley, I think it was somewhere in the Foxtors myres area but not too sure, this just reminded me. That is REALLY not a good place to drive tanks (dartmoor has a granite base which means bogs up there, one wrong move and the tank is a bit stuck)

Anyways on closer inspection (like 800 meters) you could tell these thing weren't real, on even closer inspection they were put up like tents with poles and canvass etc. We felt like lighting them up - well no one was looking!!

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