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Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
If a belief system can't stand up to honest questioning and scrutiny, then there is something very wrong with it.
Originally posted by murrieta1853
do not bring your sacred religion/beliefs or anyone elses to this site.
The method in which Joseph Smith "translated" the gold plates has been a source of interest to many people who have studied the origins of the LDS movement. While many paintings and pictures used in Mormon visitor's centers and books depict a prayerful Smith leaning over the plates, many contemporaries of Smith admit that he used a hat and a seer stone as a means of bringing about this "divine" record.
In his Comprehensive History of the Church (CHC), LDS historian and Seventy Brigham H. Roberts quotes Martin Harris, one of the three witnesses whose name is found in every edition of the Book of Mormon since its original edition. Harris said that the seer stone Smith possessed was a "chocolate-colored, somewhat egg-shaped stone which the Prophet found while digging a well in company with his brother Hyrum." Harris went on to say it was by using this stone that "Joseph was able to translate the characters engraven on the plates" (CHC 1:129).
Originally posted by prepared4thefuture
Where did you get the "out of hat" deal?
"Many of you are experienced in the difficult task of translating written text from one language to another. I am intrigued, as you are, with the process Joseph Smith used to translate the Book of Mormon, which he said was done through “the gift and power of God.” (Book of Mormon, title page.) The Prophet learned the nature of that gift the night the angel Moroni first visited him. Moroni told him that “there was a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of [the American] continent, and the source from whence they sprang. He also said that the fulness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it, as delivered by the Savior to the ancient inhabitants;
“Also, that there were two stones in silver bows—and these stones, fastened to a breastplate, constituted what is called the Urim and Thummim—deposited with the plates; and the possession and use of these stones were what constituted ‘seers’ in ancient or former times; and that God had prepared them for the purpose of translating the book.” (JS—H 1:34-35.)
The inscriptions on the plates were written in a Semitic language, using a modified Egyptian type of script.
But yes, the lost tribe of Israel.
I do believe that it traveled from Jerusalem about 600 b.c. to the Americas.
A side note to darkheartrising - kudos to you, your research is spot on with one exception. The sasquatch/cain deal. I've heard of it but for more than a century the church taught that dark skinned peoples were living proof of the mark of cain and that only through embracing the gospel of the LDS church could they become white and delightful.
Originally posted by darkheartrising
if you take a good look at the mormon religion ie: ask one of their representatives, and not rely on a biased website as per the example shown above. you will see that they actually believe in alot of the same things most of us believe in..for example: