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i would say that "being alive on earth" is one indivisible experience of quantum physics and super-miraculous existence, and being an amazingly complex microcosm of this magnificient macrocosm is undivided in its knowledge that all things are ultimately one. in this experience of life, religion is not "Religion" and civil liberties are not "Civil Liberties" - not according to man-written decrees and policies. i don't care for Vatican II or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, nor anything equivalent. Both are merged into and superceded by my sheer existence. you feelin me?
i would suggest that the "general human population" and "the powers that be" are largely 'unrelated', despite powers-that-be-sponsored media constantly equivalating the two with catch words like "democracy" and "freedom" and "peace" and "safety". its a false relationship covering up the true relationship between the two.
exactly. this is the devolution of the system, occurring as we speak. i agree, the global system is doing 'relatively' well at the moment and without careful thought it would be easy to say think that all is well and good and we can stop worrying. but the process is insidious, and it is visible. its not just america. its the global system manipulated by the world banks through foreign debt. why do you think the global powers are furious with Hugo Chavez? because in 5 years he cleared his country of its foreign debt, thus severed venezualas subservience to the global state. in contrast, australia's foreign debt has nearly tripled (!) under its most neoliberal government to date. why would a country seek to increase its foreign debt and not reduce it?
regarding your view of religion/christianity: finding the root of a tree tells you very little about its foliage or its fruit. you might have researched some origins of CHristianity and what you might have found is some pale vegetative matter noodled through some dirt and humus.
what else did you expect? and yet some people find tubers to be delicious and nutritious vegetables. yet it seems you didn't find useful tubers looking at the roots, which by flawed deduction, rendered the rest of the plant useless. i would urge you to consider things perhaps a little differently.
i dont think your analogy of the chip and a page of the bible is valid. and i think others would agree with me.
the crux of my argument is not that society needs to worship its government. my argument is that one day global society WILL worship its global government. and this is an offence to our existence as soverign and eternal beings. in short the crux of my argument is the Crux.
if you think that a global system that boils down to individuals needing a chip to be integrated into it as one global systemic entity will only be used for our benefit, then all power to you. just don't be surprised when shyte hits the fan and hell breaks loose across the earth. and don't be surprised when the inconceivable power of the universe comes and taps on your shoulder saying, why did you surrender your sovreign existence to this man-made man-controlled imitator?
Originally posted by sollie
copernicus and redge, you're on point.
A small number of people may realize the rfid chip will remove their freedom of speach completely, but the others wont.
People are so busy with their real lifes that I doubt they will have the energy to research what this really means. So they will just accept it.
there's a point at which you have to cut your losses and focus on yourself and the ones close to you. remember jesus didn't pray for the world. he prayed for the people who were reading from the same page as him. that's all that matters in the end. "i am what i am" and there's no changing that. so we sit tight and stand our ground when it matters. "not my might, nor by power, but by my Spirit". we have the victory - it's already game over. the world's just in denial - satan "knows his time is short". peace
Originally posted by St James
Well, for starters there will be an RFID chip in the REAL ID card. It will carry all your personal information and you will need it to enter any goverment building, open a bank account, board an airplane etc. This will allow the government to track your movements...
he spoke to the masses in parables, but explained the parables to the ones who would listen. that's why the masses put him on a cross bro.
majority consensus does not equate to truth.
and that's the funny thing about the way of the world, people will band together with all this 'peace' and 'happiness' and 'safety' fairyfloss all day long, but as soon as someone comes along and waters down their sandy foundations - in the interest of loving education mind you - they get all haterish and hypocritical.
they wouldnt surrender for what they believe in like jesus did.
see jesus knew his cause was more powerful and more final than death itself, so he didn't resist when the world sought to snuff him out. "that's power" yo.
man's world seeks to prove himself, man's world seeks to glorify himself. in doing so he will destroy himself because he aint humble enough to admit he dont know enough.
but yall wouldnt get this because its already been prophesied - this truth ain't measured in mass appeal. peace
Originally posted by St James
Well, for starters there will be an RFID chip in the REAL ID card. It will carry all your personal information and you will need it to enter any goverment building, open a bank account, board an airplane etc. This will allow the government to track your movements...
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
*sigh* that world will be beautiful. It is only a matter of time, too
Originally posted by dAlen
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
*sigh* that world will be beautiful. It is only a matter of time, too
actually...time is the one hinderance to the world being beautiful.
As we continue to seek life in the future we forget to live it now.
Peace
dAlen
right on. where's this stairway to heaven? its like, 'just a few more steps everyone'...they dont realise the kingdom is within
octie man, your opinion of a christian/ity is surprisingly limited and somewhat offensive.
from what i've heard of people on this board alone, none of them are like what you've suggested.
if you actually knew what was in the bible you might realise that not all who say "Lord Lord" will enter the kingdom because 50% of christians are just as ignorant as most non-christians on what the bible teaches.
yet people would rather listen to whatever feels good and call that truth. "in the last days, people will gather around them many teachers to hear whatever their itching ears want to hear".
you're not interested in the bible and you don't respect jesus. i have heard loud and clear. i would ask that you consider this position wisely. i'll leave it with you.
if a lie is preferable... well it depends what your values are, no? your priorities. what you deem 'preferable'.
but if a lie is preferable, is it not still a lie?
let me put it this way: if the truth is the harder and longer route, would you opt for the lie because its the easier and shorter one? in which case truth would be relative to its utility.
are you suggesting 'truth' is defined as utility?
i'm not sure where you're going.
i only paraphrased directly from the bible when i mentioned that yahshuah spoke to the masses in parables and the few in clearer language. the fact is, "if anyone has ears, let them hear". plenty in the masses heard and believed. plenty didn't. that's free will, not exclusivity.
i misunderstood you when you said you no longer have respect for jesus, sorry
1) no one is lying by not saying sorry.
2) who told you the bible is based on lies? that's very poor scholarship.
yet with the bible, as with scientific experimentation, it is testified to by the Spirit, who is real if only you had the humility and patience to call on Him. which i urge you to do in one of your quieter moments.
so don't play that card about christianity being all about control. that is straight up fallacy and in complete ignorance of what the Bible teaches.
i will tell you personally, i had never read the bible until one event in my life a few years ago. the Son of God came thundering into my living room one night, and slapped me in the face for my wrongdoings, for want of a better expression.
I tell you in all truth that the Lord is alive. i'm just saying it so that it is said. it's not for you to believe nor disbelieve. only for you to hear/read.
octavius, please, consider your position on the bible wisely. that means doing some hard research. and don't limit yourself to google.
i would ask you to consider what authority you have before you make any claims about the Book. take it easy