i only paraphrased directly from the bible when i mentioned that yahshuah spoke to the masses in parables and the few in clearer language. the fact
is, "if anyone has ears, let them hear". plenty in the masses heard and believed. plenty didn't. that's free will, not exclusivity.
Its excluding, simple.
He made no attempt to change their opinion, and left them as lost causes.
Kind of unfair, really.
i misunderstood you when you said you no longer have respect for jesus, sorry
1) no one is lying by not saying sorry.
Hmm, thats the thing isnt it? Some people say it is because they believe the government is guilt, so should take the blame.
Its lying by avoiding the guilt.
I am not one of these people. but the idea exists.
2) who told you the bible is based on lies? that's very poor scholarship.
Hehehe, i knew i was going to get hollered at for that.
Here on this site i find difficulty, people dont read what i write, they see the words and make assumptions. 2 different things.
i said. "Lets say"
As in, "Let us hypothetically discuss"
yet with the bible, as with scientific experimentation, it is testified to by the Spirit, who is real if only you had the humility and patience
to call on Him. which i urge you to do in one of your quieter moments.
Sorry, no. Spirit cannot be measured, seen, smelt, heard. It stretches reality too much for me to believe in its existence.
I am a proud man, i do not bend at the knees, man or god. Here is something which no person has been able to answer me.
Why is a god better than a man?
so don't play that card about christianity being all about control. that is straight up fallacy and in complete ignorance of what the Bible
Hence why i asked you to go into the world of Hypothetics.
Unfortunatly the words i say dont mean anything anymore.
i will tell you personally, i had never read the bible until one event in my life a few years ago. the Son of God came thundering into my living room
one night, and slapped me in the face for my wrongdoings, for want of a better expression.
Thats not very nice of him, he could of just talked to you.
I tell you in all truth that the Lord is alive. i'm just saying it so that it is said. it's not for you to believe nor disbelieve. only for
you to hear/read.
hmmm, well Iesus, a man, did die once on a crucifix. I have no evidence saying he came back later, though. That is in the realms of fantasy and
octavius, please, consider your position on the bible wisely. that means doing some hard research. and don't limit yourself to google.
hehehe, i never use google for research...or the internet for that matter.
My first and forever love.
i would ask you to consider what authority you have before you make any claims about the Book. take it easy
And i would ask you to read the words in posts so as to extrapolate their meanings.
if you want a few little critical evaluations of the bible then, here you are.
I will talk of the Flood Myth, i like this story.
mostly because its written by 2 people, at 2 different times. They were crudely edited and put together.
The easiest way to see this is because one writer writes LORD (which in the original text was written YHWY) while the other writer writes God
(originally Eloheim, meaning "Lord" in the social sense)
There are other ways of telling, the length of the flood is different halfway through the text, Noah sending out a raven to scour the earth for land,
then other birds and the Raven completly disappears from the story.
now, i have read many flood myths. Each of them is very similar, but tracing the direct line of this story is fairly easy. This story (penned in 8th
Century BC by one author and around 530BC-500BC for the other), the version we have that comes before is the Epic of Gilgamesh, written on Tablets
around 704BC-681BC (but the story is older)
The story is basically the same thing, the Boat comes to Rest on Mount Numash, there are more gods, more story, etc. But it is almost exactly the same
thing. Noah is Ut-Napishtim, the sacrifice at the end of the flood had meat in it, not just leaves, etc.
Then further along we have an even older text, same story, the Epic of Atrahasis- around 1700BC
The Epic mentions the ark builder as being 600 years old, just like Noah is in Genesis (hehe, this cracks me up)
The sacrifice to the gods once the waters recede is in this Epic, aswell.
In all 3 stories they are different gods, funnily enough. Different Ark builders, different mountains, etc.
Yet they are all the exact same story.
Alot of bible stories have other stories like this, the opening of Genesis is one of my favorite parts, very poetic. But the Adam and Eve story
(Genesis 2? Why is Man created twice? Once in the 7 days, again in the garden) is quite old. The name 'Adam' means "man" in the original text.
So, with such "Apply gods name here" myths, how can i believe in the religion?