reply to post by tetragrammation
Exactly! that's what frightens me the most, it's people's acceptance of this. quite sadly, it's probably the majority of people who are accepting
of this. people who need to wake up. and many of them think 'well, I don't care...doesn't bother me.' well, they're only thinking of themselves
in this situation, not society as a whole. I’m not personally comfortable with people being turned into slaves. this real ID thing would be putting
people in shackles and they can't even see it!
I strongly disagree. Since age 16, I have had a drivers license. Around 1970, my home state began to use the SS number as the D/L number. Then around
the 1990s, that practice ended and the state reverted to the former numbering system. The SS number is 9 digits. That many numbers would take us out
to 999,999,999. Nearly 1 billion. If someone was assigned account number 000-00-0000, then it would be 1 billion.
The current system for numbering D/Ls is: the first letter of your last name followed by 8 digits. Theoretically - but not in practice - using one
letter in the D/L number would result in 2,600,000,000 possibilities. More than twice as many as offered by the SS number. Because all letters are not
used equally in last names, the number would be substantially fewer than the theoretically possible. There are many more people with last names
beginning with A or B than with Q, X or Z. And so on.
I carry a VA photo ID but it uses a bar code so I can’t tell how many digits are in my number. Perhaps my old Air Force serial number? That was an 8
digit number. I have a picture ID from my local transit company - persons over 65 years ride free - and it is also bar coded but the number is also
given in digits, 10 digits. That takes this ID out to 10 billion possibilities. I also have a photo ID Ky CCW permit that says I am the 38,150th
person to get such a permit. Finally, I have a US passport with picture ID and I don’t know what number.
A Federal ID? Does anyone here doubt the NCIC - National Crime Information Center - has me listed there by name, SS #, former Armed Forces serial
number, passport number, state drivers license number telephone numbers both home and cell, VIN number of the car I own and maybe more? Like VISA card
numbers. Do I like this? Well if I lived in 1808 probably not, in 1908, maybe not, in 2008, no problem at all. I buy most things on the internet. I
needed a new printer, instead of driving 3-4 miles to buy one, I ordered it via internet. Got delivery on day 2. To my door. Cost? $15.00.
Extravagant? Probably. But I regarded it as worth the price.
I got to choose from the entire Lexmark line which is far more than the local Office Depot could afford to stock.
RFID. Radio Frequency Identity Device. I use one to gain access to my apartment parking lot and to the building itself. Foolproof? No. But it is
better than an unlocked door or nothing at all. The devices are so cheap now that many retail stores put the RFID in even semi-expensive items. What
looks like a metal detector at your friendly store entrance is really a computer operated RFID antenna.
Many dog and cat lovers have had RFIDs surgically implanted with reference to a national computer data base including the owners name and address.
Finally, if we do have a Federal ID, I want it to encode in the metal strip much of my medical history that would be relevant in the event I arrive
unconscious at a hospital Emergency Room. Including next of kin contact info and organ donor status. One swipe of your Federal ID and the doctor
could call for blood of your type! Or not give you an MRI if you had a metal implant in your skull. And etc.
Downside? Based on my reference to NCIC above, I do not see any downside.
[edit on 1/13/2008 by donwhite]