Originally posted by dgtempe
Lies like THE LIBERAL LEFT/DEMOCRATS ARE SUPPORTERS OF TERROR, ARE NOT behind the troops (in other words, we want them all dead) Please, come on, i've never heard such HATRED in my so many years alive.

So if former Pres. Carter says we should talk with Hamas, does that not support them and their agenda in some way? The EU, Russia, UN and the US have all agreed on steps for the elected Palestian Govenment to follow to get the peace process rolling. That Hamas refuses to do them is not our problem, it's the Palestinians. Former President Carter would reward Hamas for it's militant and terror stance towards the peace process, how is that not supporting Hamas in some small matter by further legitimizing their agenda?

I was going to leave this dopey thread alone because there is only one radio show that has ever been worth listening to regularly (see my sig)...

however

Originally posted by RRconservative
I have been over this before, but since you are new, let me explain.

Answering a direct question, directly, gives all the power to the questioner. Giving power to you in this situation is not warranted, especially since you proved my point already.

My only advice to you in this situation is to use more of your mental ability, and stop relying so much on your feelings. That is why liberalism is the easiest choice anyone can make. All feelings, no thought.

Of course you got asked a question directly, you don't use facts, and you don't site your sources.

You do realize that this wormy nonsense absolutely does not work in real life, don't you? I understand that being anonymous allows for this behavior but the least you can do is control yourself. And stop trying to turn this into some sort of "who has the upper hand" mexican standoff, because you've already revealed that your gun ain't loaded.

The politcal arena may be turning into professional wrestling but how about we keep ATS's standards a little higher than that. If you know damn well that you don't know what you're talking about, then don't pretend to.
And don't bother swearing that you do, because most politicians have a hard time dealing with such intricate and highly politicized subjects. And therefore most talking heads have absolutely no clue, and since you're getting your opinions from them, well, as they say, garbage in, garbage out.

I've had enough of this "what'cha gonna do, when the 24 inch pythons run wild on you" crap, save that for BTS.

AAANNNDDD. Conservative talk radio should just be called shock-jockery. Stern is the same guy as Limbaugh, minus the Vicodin, and they both STINK. You show me the radio host supporting Ron Paul, and I'll show you conservative radio.

Hehe one of my local shows (Shanin and Parks, KMBZ.com 4-7pm CST) had a moratorium on the mentioning of the name Ron Paul. The made a game out of it... if local listeners could come up with 1500 signatures in two weeks, they would end the ban and allow him to be discussed. It was actually kind of funny because by banning his mention, they talked about him by default for almost a week straight, beeping out "Ron Paul" at every utterance.

In the end the local Ron Paul supporters that listen to talk radio round up 800 signatures. But the KMBZ committee decided 800 was enough, and lifted the moratorium.

When Paul was in town Shanin and Parks even scored an interview with him on the radio, and asked him fair and unbiased questions.

Just another perfect example of Liberals telling us what we should do, own and now even listen to..

We really should not be shocked at this, Hillary wants to TAKE the profits from business and do with it what SHE wants too...

Free Speech.... The Constitution....

How is it that ANYONE with any COMMON sense at all can argue in favor of regulating talk radio?
Whether you like it or not, the person has every right to say it. The corporations have every right to support the shows that they choose to, and we all have every right to listen to what we want to.

I despise Stern, but support his right to broadcast 100%..

That is the problem with Liberals/Socialist, they only want free Liberal speech. The only free speech to them is that which they approve of.. Remind you of anyone in history? Hitler maybe?

Go ahead, put your Liberal/Socialist restrictions on radio, know what is next?

The Internet and ATS...

Then all of the socialist on here will only be allowed to argue amongst themselves....

MAN!!!

How really really ridiculous can this get...

Semper

Originally posted by jsobecky
Dictators, like Chavez, understand the power of a free media. That is why he recently shut down several television stations in Venezuela.

Actually, Chavez shut down only one TV station, last I heard. And the reason was because the station was spouting lies and propaganda. Any media outlet that allows lies isn't doing their job as journalists and checking their facts.
Alot like what Limbaugh and is ilk are doing. And that's my main problem with these shock-jockies, they spread lies and other propaganda. I agree with DGTempe, they are hate-mongerers. And that doesn't do anyone any good. The problem is that most people who listen to these morons don't get their information from other sources or they get it from Fox News, another paragon of journalism....NOT.

There is no such thing as fair and unbiased in the "news" media. This would then suggest that a truly informed person is one who listens to both sides and determines the truth for themselves.

Most of America, it seems, are blue collar workers who hold traditional values. This is why "right-wing" talk radio is so popular. It appeals to conservative values.

As I was driving up to San Antonio last week, I was listening to a story of how someone in the Broward County FL government wants to pull hurricane warnings from the local radio station because it host such people as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. This is the sort of thing that makes "liberals" look like raving lunatics (which many are not). What on earth does emergency broadcasting have to do with politics. If a raging hurricane is heading toward my house, I want to know and will listen to any station that carries the information.

Republican or Democratic party afilliation should not even be a consideration in the all consuming search for the truth!

We put up with the Lewinsky dress, the cigar jokes, ( ok, none of my business, the country still ran great) and now that we have a disaster on our hands, we listen to HOW GREAT THOU ART.

Its lies, newspeak, shock, and more lies. They dont say, hey, let me tell you this...bla bla bla...therefore we think ....They just blurt out lies that are very offensive to Democrats and should be very offensive to Republicans.

I was wrong. Ok. I do want freedom of speech, so, let them go for the jugular-
BUT I EXPECT MY LIBERAL TERRORIST FRIENDS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUT LOUD AND ALSO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS. WHY IS EVERYONE WHISPERING????? BS.
i WANT EQUAL TIME. THAT'S WHY I DONT HOLD BACK ANYMORE.
I AM ASHAMED TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE THERE IS A VILLAGE IDIOT RUNNING THINGS GUIDED BY STRINGS FROM TERRYFYING CHARACTERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEY MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!

They have to be impeached- Enough!!!

Someone like ROSIE ODONNELL, FOR INSTANCE SPEAKS OUT AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS TO HER~~~~~~!!! WELL?????????

IS THAT NOT BEING A HYPOCRIT? Why not let her speak her mind? It should work BOTH WAYS, DAMN IT.
tHAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

It doesnt stop there; Anyone with an opinion other than "right winged" is chastised and laughed out of town.

Is that what we want? Just a one way street?

You know i'm right- If we're going to be tolerant of one side, the other side must be tolerant of MY side too.
Tit for tat.

[edit on 22-6-2007 by dgtempe]

Originally posted by forestlady

Originally posted by jsobecky
Dictators, like Chavez, understand the power of a free media. That is why he recently shut down several television stations in Venezuela.

Actually, Chavez shut down only one TV station, last I heard. And the reason was because the station was spouting lies and propaganda.

He shut down RCTV and is now going after Globovision. He has threatened to sue CNN. And, when he makes a proclamation, all stations are required to carry it. Iow, he forces the people to hear and see what he decides is best for them.

Another example? Do some research into Cuba. The average person does not have acces to the internet. That "right" is for the privileged communist elites only.

dg

Nobody is muzzling the liberal voice. Every radio station that I listen to encourages both points of view to speak their minds.

As for Rosie, if she could be brought down so easily, then what does that say about her message?

Also, I agree that the name "liberal" has been painted with a bad brush these days. Maybe we should come up with a new nickname for the bad ones?

Originally posted by jsobecky
dg



As for Rosie, if she could be brought down so easily, then what does that say about her message?

Well, what does it say about her message? That she has a different one? A message that is not acceptable to the media that put her out of work? Why shouldnt she be able to voice her opinion, wheather its right or wrong???????

Originally posted by dgtempe
ANY LIAR should be taken off the air.

There would never be another presidential debate on TV ...
There would be no more political ads ...
There would be no more speeches by those running for political office aired ...

Almost sounds like heaven.
But it isn't possible.

Originally posted by InSpiteOf
why are higher taxes for the rich a bad idea?

You penalize those who make money, or those who inherit money, simply because they have it. It's a punishment on those who know how to make money. You also take away the incentive for people to work harder to earn more money ... why work harder or smarter and earn more just to have it taken away and given to those who don't work?? All incentive is gone. (That's why communism doesn't work. It destroys incentive and society stops growing .. and withers)

Also - Bottom line - IT'S NOT FAIR. A flat percentage tax is the only fair tax.

Originally posted by Majic
point out the hypocrisy of self-styled "Liberals" pushing for absolute state control over the "masses",

AMEN and pass the biskets. It's a slippery slope. A FRIGHTENING slippery slope. They want to control the education system (through the NEA) AND the airwaves. Watch for 'the fairness doctrine' to be a major topic of conversation now that BOXER AND HILLARY got caught (and outted) about their conversations in regards to federally mandating the end of Talk Radio. They got caught with their pants down .... it's on the TV news this morning.

Originally posted by dgtempe
I'm hoping people will stop listening,

For years I've been wishing that people would stop funding left-wing PBS.
But it's still there .. supported with our tax money .. spouting leftisms ..

Originally posted by semperfortis
Just another perfect example of Liberals telling us what we should do, own and now even listen to..

I fully agree. Clinton and Boxer want socialism SO BADLY that they are willing to legislate away our freedoms in order to get it.

Originally posted by forestlady
Chavez shut down only one TV station, last I heard. And the reason was because the station was spouting lies and propaganda.

All the other stations fell in line with Chavez's propaganda, except for one. He shut down the one station that aired information that opposed what he was doing. It wasn't 'spouting lies and propaganda' .. it was exercising freedom of speech and it was exposing HIS lies and propaganda.

Originally posted by dgtempe
We put up with the Lewinsky dress

Actually, this whole country put up with Clinton telling LIES UNDER OATH and we all had to deal with his public SEX ADDICTION.

BUT I EXPECT MY LIBERAL TERRORIST FRIENDS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUT LOUD

They do. CNN ring a bell? The left basically owns the airwaves. As a previous poster pointed out - 9 out of 10 reporters are left/liberals. It is widely reflected on TV and on the radio. You don't have to fear, dg, ya'll run the show.

The left runs the airwaves?

In any case, i'm done. I've stated my case and i won.

Explain to me why the likes of Rosie odonnell cant voice an opinion, or Ed Asner getting laughed off tv, or countless of others and i may change my mind.

As i said before, THEY DONT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. All i want is them to get equal time.

THEY CANT...and why is that? Because the media is so far right that they are blind and cant even give equal time to the liberal nutcases out there.
We are nuts and unpatriotic and support terrorism- like i said, them's fighting words.
We have to take it, all the insults, just because we are inferior and are stupid.
So what was that about our rights to express our sentiments (all of us) and our First Amendment?

Freedom of speech here is one way. That's it.

Originally posted by dgtempe
We put up with the Lewinsky dress, the cigar jokes, ( ok, none of my business, the country still ran great) and now that we have a disaster on our hands, we listen to HOW GREAT THOU ART.

Shame on the talk show hosts for talking about our former President committing a felony that could have landed him in jail for 5 years. The entire country knew he was guilty, even the liberal friends I work with had to shake their heads. He got off on a technicality.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Its lies, newspeak, shock, and more lies. They dont say, hey, let me tell you this...bla bla bla...therefore we think ....They just blurt out lies that are very offensive to Democrats and should be very offensive to Republicans.

That's funny, I listed to talk radio a few hours a day during my commutes and very rarely do I hear lies. What I do hear are opinions that you likely disagree with because you're of a liberal mindset. You seem to be confusing truth with opinion.

Originally posted by dgtempeI was wrong. Ok. I do want freedom of speech, so, let them go for the jugular-
BUT I EXPECT MY LIBERAL TERRORIST FRIENDS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUT LOUD AND ALSO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS. WHY IS EVERYONE WHISPERING????? BS.
i WANT EQUAL TIME. THAT'S WHY I DONT HOLD BACK ANYMORE.
I AM ASHAMED TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE THERE IS A VILLAGE IDIOT RUNNING THINGS GUIDED BY STRINGS FROM TERRYFYING CHARACTERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEY MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!

Your liberal friends have all of the rest of the media, our colleges, and our schools. You have more than equal time.

Originally posted by dgtempe
They have to be impeached- Enough!!!

Go for it. Notice how I don't try to silence you just because you have a different opinion than I do??

Originally posted by dgtempeSomeone like ROSIE ODONNELL, FOR INSTANCE SPEAKS OUT AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS TO HER~~~~~~!!! WELL?????????

IS THAT NOT BEING A HYPOCRIT? Why not let her speak her mind? It should work BOTH WAYS, DAMN IT.
tHAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

Well, first of all, Rosie is an idiot. Regardless, she wasn't removed from the show directly because she spoke out. She was removed because she spoke out in a way that angered a good portion of the viewership. TV is all about money and if your actions on a show are costing the show viewers and/or sponsors then you gotta go.

Originally posted by dgtempe It doesnt stop there; Anyone with an opinion other than "right winged" is chastised and laughed out of town.

Is that what we want? Just a one way street?

You know i'm right- If we're going to be tolerant of one side, the other side must be tolerant of MY side too.
Tit for tat.

It seems like YOU want a one way street because what we have out there now isn't one way by any sense of the word. One of the right wing talkhosts that you've maybe heard has a quote that goes like this "Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent". Seems to fit in this situation.

Whatever- I must go to work and i'm already worked up.

See you on the flip side.

Originally posted by dgtempe
The left runs the airwaves?

Yep.

Freedom of speech here is one way. That's it.

If BOXER and CLINTON have their way then this statement will definately be true. The left has a corner market on the airwaves already. These two socialists want to legislate away anyone who airs opinions and facts that they don't like.

That's definately 'freedom of speech .. one way'. The Socialist/Left way.

(which isn't freedom of speech at all)

Originally posted by dgtempe
The left runs the airwaves?

Yep.

Originally posted by dgtempe
In any case, i'm done. I've stated my case and i won.

Just like a liberal, when the going gets tough, pack up and get the heck out. You have by no means "won" anything, if you wanna quit that's fine, but call a spade a spade.

Originally posted by dgtempeExplain to me why the likes of Rosie odonnell cant voice an opinion, or Ed Asner getting laughed off tv, or countless of others and i may change my mind.

I did, what she did is voice some outrageous opinions in a forum that wasn't appropriate. She could easily go on CNN or MSNBC and say the same things she did and she may get laughed at, but she would surely get her airtime to speak. TV is all about $$, when people stop watching a show because one of the hosts is offending them...it costs the station $$ and the cause of the loss of $$ gets pitched.

Originally posted by dgtempeAs i said before, THEY DONT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. All i want is them to get equal time.

Funny, that's what I want also. I want conservatives to get equal time and I don't see it happening now. The difference is that conservatives don't try to legislate it into effect and liberals apparantly do.

Originally posted by dgtempeTHEY CANT...and why is that? Because the media is so far right that they are blind and cant even give equal time to the liberal nutcases out there.
We are nuts and unpatriotic and support terrorism- like i said, them's fighting words.
We have to take it, all the insults, just because we are inferior and are stupid.
So what was that about our rights to express our sentiments (all of us) and our First Amendment?

THEY DO. The fact that you think the media is far right makes me wonder about your alignment. Maybe it's actually just right of you, which would make you far left.
I do think y'all are nuts, but that's just because your ideas are so radically different from mine. Unpatriotic? Some of the actions of the left would indicate this, but I think it's all politics. I DO buy the idea that many of the lefts actions are inappropriate while we have troops in harms way. Iraq might well be done and over by now if the enemy didn't tune into US news every night and see the liberals in congress saying the war is lost, the command is incompetent, etc.
Just another example of things you would NOT be able to say if conservatives pushed the same bans that your party is pushing.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Freedom of speech here is one way. That's it.

If you rule out radio, you're mostly correct.

Originally posted by dgtempe

Originally posted by jsobecky
dg



As for Rosie, if she could be brought down so easily, then what does that say about her message?

Well, what does it say about her message? That she has a different one? A message that is not acceptable to the media that put her out of work? Why shouldnt she be able to voice her opinion, wheather its right or wrong???????

dg, her opinion was not acceptable to the "people" . The media outlets had nothing to do with her leaving the View.

She shot her mouth off a few years ago about guns. She said that " every gun owner should be thrown in jail". She had a ad deal with K-mart ( I think) and we the gun owners got her canned. She has the right to her lying opinion and we have a right to ours and where we shop. Money talks, BS walks!

Roper

Well, what does it say about her message? That she has a different one? A message that is not acceptable to the media that put her out of work?

And there it is folks....

This is what this debate is really all about...


YES DG, The MEDIA put her out of work..

NOT THE GOVERNMENT..

That is the Medias prerogative..

The Government hasn't the right...

Semper

As far as I can see Talk Radio will be run so it makes money. Isn't that the whole point of being in business? If espousing conservative view gets the listeners that's how it will go.

As far as Clinton and Boxer; their dare I say idiots. It makes my blood run cold to think of Hillary as President. We really will have to watch that she doesn't side step the constitution.

Now it is early and I must have more coffee.

Hmm...
Who said this?
"All Blacks are drug monkeys"
Who played "Barack the Magic Negro" ??
Who said it was a liberal conspiracy against republicans when GOP Leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for raping a 5 year old boy?
Who said MJF was faking his symptoms/off his meds and made fun of a man with a terrible disease just because the man did a commercial that didn't worship the GOP?

Now, who said...
To nuke Canada to scare the liberals
That Canada sent troops into Vietnam
We should kill liberals just because they're liberals

Who said...
That FDR censored photos when infact it was FDR who had them uncensored
Who sicks security and calls the FBI on people who don't agree with him?
Who is exposed at the end of every month by Olberman and has all his lies torn apart on a daily bases?

You guessed it, Rush "The Pill" Limbaugh, MAnn Coultergeist, and Billo Orally.

Those are just some of the lies they tell. Also, Hannity has lied about WMDs in Iraq and all of the right wing has lied about Saddam being behind 9/11.

Also, Clinton lied about a BJ, so according to Rush, Hannity, Cheney, and Rove he didn't commit a crime since they all said that lying about something that isn't a crime isn't perjury.(When defending Scooter) so Clinton did not commit a crime, according to the GOP themselves.

Also, how many listeners/watchers are liberals wanting a good laugh? I bet if liberals/people with IQs over 100, well, same thing, stopped listening/watching the ratings would drop like a rock.