Originally posted by Brother Stormhammer
Originally posted by justanothergangster
listen to the radio broadcast on that video unforunately it appears the la times database doesnt go that far back or that day is ommitted one of the two but you saw the video if that was a weather balloon then why didnt it go down?? imean surely if our AA was enough for the japanes oscar and zero we could shoot down a weather balloon or atleast i would hope so....imean if it really was a balloon it would have gone down on the first hit of flak and even if i cant confirm the hits like i said its in the video flack doesnt require a direct hit and there was enough of it to bring down a flying battleship for that matter plus the training our military has with AA im sure we connected....multiple times
If you're that confident in pre-VT fuse anti-aircraft fire, you're about the only one. I don't mean that as a slap in the face of the gun crews, it's a simple observation based on historical record. Before the VT (Variable-Time, or 'Proximity') fuse went into mass production (September of 1942), AA fire was a matter of high volume and good luck. Just ask the German AA gunners aboard DKM Bismarck...shooting in broad, if somewhat overcast daylight, they didn't manage a single crippling hit on the flight of Fairy Swordfish torpedo bombers despite their low speed (around 90mph before torpedo release), and low altitude. The only thing I'd be certain we hit 85 times during the "Battle of LA" was LA itself....what goes up, must come down.
It's also not as easy to bring down a balloon of any size as you might think. The shrapnel that could tear up a 'real' airplane would just make the balloon vent its lifting gas...speed of venting would be proportional to the damage done, of course...but you aren't likely to simply one-shot the thing. Disclaimer: If the balloon is full of hydrogen (instead of the helium we used) and you hit it with a tracer or incindiary round, all bets are off!
I'm not sure exactly what we're looking at here, but the fact that we didn't blow it out of the sky doesn't rule out a weather balloon (or multiple balloons), given the state of the art in AAA at the time...particularly with crews that weren't as well-drilled as they might have been, firing at night.
Just about any amount of shrapnel would down a weather balloon, maybe you didn't read for how ong the assualt lasted or anything about the "confirmed hits" but saying it could be a WB is like siding with the least likely thing possible.


This is one of those rare cases where we have a legitimate
"UFO"...there's an object, it's flying, and we don't know what it is. If we're ever going to find out, we need to be very careful to base our
suppositions and assumptions on carefully checked fact.


