posted on May, 13 2007 @ 12:36 PM
Originally posted by RRconservative
The Phillipines gained self-rule in 1916 and became an independent government in 1946. Thanks to America more prospered, than perished.
They gained independance in the form of no longer having direct colonial rule. But that is not because US leaders wanted to grant them freedom of
rule. Its because the costs of colonial rule no longer justified having colonies, they were loosing to much money. Now US imperial interests have a
better way of rule. It can be reffered to as Economic Imperialism. Where a countries markets and labour sectors have been heavily penetrated by
foreign capital for the benefit of foreign investors at the cost of the local population. Oh yes, thank goodness the US gave them independance of
rule, now the philipines "business zones" are a thriving sector of shanty towns, prostitues, and criminals.
Viet-Nam and Cambodia. Dead Communists is a bad thing? Cambodian deaths were a direct result of the U.S. pulling out of Viet-Nam, due to
Depends, how many lives were sacrificed to stop the revolution and why? What was so threatening about communism to the US? was it the lack of
democracy that many communist states shared? Thats what US policy makers and their media mouthpieces woul dhave you believe. but the truth is US
leaders have supported countless autocratic, fascist, and otherwise undemocratic regimes. So we can rule the lack of democracy out of the equation.
So what is it about communism that US leaders hated so much. Capital. It has to do with how capital is gathered, used, and distributed. Under many
communist regimes, the capital accumulation process was cut out like the cancer it is. The US investor class could not persue they're actions of
capital accumulation in communist countries because the government would not allow it, cutting the profits of those investors. So really the war in
Viet Nam had nothing to do with stopping the commies and installing a democracy, and everything to do with stopping the commies and ensuring a
client-state setup for the future. "We want YOU to protect our vital corporate interests!"
You also blame America for the USSRs incursion into Afgahnistan? That's funny! The USSR completely failed in Afgahnistan. The U.S. saved lives by
secretly helping Afgahnistan. Then saved more lives by invading Afgahnistan, and getting rid of the Taliban ruled government.
Who benefitted from the mujahadeen's rise in afganistan? the people? doubtful, they got to live with dictatorial rule with the newly instilled US
About Iraq and Saddam Hussein. It's genius! The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Iran was more of a problem for the U.S. at that time. War between
the two was inevitable. Helping Iraq was in the U.S.'s best interest. That is as far as that goes. The U.S. made Iraq withdraw from Kuwait, which
ultimately saved lives. The U.S. ended Iraq's WMD program, which also saved lives. The U.S. overthrew Saddam and installed a new government, which
also will end up saving lives.
The US backed Saddam because he was going to crush the Iraqi rebellion (social reforms) and because they thought he would be a good comprador and just
give up everything to US oil cartels on their terms. It turns out they were wrong, he wanted to cut a better deal on oil prices and he wanted some of
the funds to go to iraq rather than into the pockets of other compradors. Was he a tyrant? Yes. Did he need to be removed? Yes. But what is
replacing him will be just as democratic as he was. The people of iraq will be facing even more economic hardships, especially when the IMF demands
"economic restructuring" (harsh austerity programs.)
War is the ONLY way, to make things BETTER! The U.S. has proved this. If anything, stopping wars prematurely has led to more deaths.
So hows Iraq doing right now? Is it better or worse?
Hows Angola doing right now? Is it better or worse?
How about Mozabique? better or worse?
How do you measure whats better or worse? Are your stipulations based on Capital investment opportunities, or the wellfare of the people?
[edit on 13-5-2007 by InSpiteOf]