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reply posted on 10-3-2007 @ 04:47 PM by Where2Hide2006
This is a Brilliant Theory! It asks the reader to question the very core of traditional beliefs and forces the expansion of one's mind into the far reaches of theoretical planetary birth. Thank You OP.
Just Recently I was reading on the topic of the creation of the moon. The two most regarded theories being 1) The Moon was created by the collision of the Earth with another planetary body resulting in a large chunk
of the earth creating the moon...this theory leaves the unanswered question or possible explanation of the current "continental draft' plate techtonic theory. 2) the second theory is that during the early days of the solar system the earth was spinning so quickly that the moon split away...however this theory doesn't make a lot of sense because the moons rotation and axis doesn't support the theory.

Back to Your Planetary Birthing Theory.

The Sun is the Mother of the Galaxy and gives birth to a, let us use "Planetary Core" instead of "hairball". The Planetary Cycle then begins where Mercury is currently located and each time the sun gives birth to a new planet all of the planets are pushed away "magnetically/graviationally" to make room for the new planet.
The New Planet, (Mercury) is then in phase #1 where it collects exotic material/space dust and also has some type of reverse magnetic field that pulls asteroids and meteors into it, and would also be volcanically active
...so that it can increase its size. As time goes on the original planetary core will be surrounded by a crust and mantel, then it will pass into the venus phase where it developes a voilent atmasphere of gasses
around a developing crust on the surface as the core cools, the planet then passes to Earth's Phase where Cooling Persists and forms a division Oceans of Liquids and Land, and also a more moderate atmasphere/gravity. Complex Life is possible during this phase, but it is not a Guarentee. The right conditions must be available such at least 1 moon to control tides and then thr planetary core will eventually cool...which would be where Mars is now.

This would explain the inward belief that many people have that advanced life once existed on Mars, because it was once in the current orbit of Earth.

Have you ever seen "The Pillars of Creation" (google it! its awesome!) you've probably seen the picture and still had no idea what you
in fact where looking at. The Pillars of Creation is a Star Nursery...its Amazing! You suggest that after the stars are created that they are then "ping ponged" to the outer edges of the galaxy...Someone then
mocked you, but I am on your side, that if you look at the pillars of creation you will have to come to one of two conclusions. 1) That the Nursery (the gas cloud) is constantly moving further away as it creates new stars...2) or that in creating new stars the magetic balance of the galaxy changes and other stars are pushed further away.

This is exactly what you are suggesting with your theory of planetary birth, and i think you are definately on to something here!
But Here are some Questions that I have...

1. Scientifically how do you explain the Gas Giants of Jupiter and Saturn?

I think i can help you explain this! What happens to the Sun when it gets old? It goes SuperNova and expands to supersize. What if the Original Birth of the "Planetary Core" ,what we would also call the "Earth's Core",
had a shelf life that was similar in nature to the sun. In that once it cooled during the 'mars phase' it would then go supernova and consume the entire planet...which would then shoot all the "earth/dirt" into its orbit...which would create the MANY moons that Jupiter and Saturn Have. My Next Question would then be if added up all the moons of saturn plus the loss from space debris would you equal the original planet of Saturn before its core went supernova. And the same goes for Jupiter.

After the planetary core goes supernova during the saturn and jupiter phase it eventually cools down and becomes a dwarf planet
on the outer rings of the solar system. This would also mean that Venus is in line to be the next planet to be in the habitable life orbit of earth...
and that Earth is about to become Mars!!!

I think this theory would definately light a fire under the arse of anyone still sitting on the fence of whether or not to promote interplanetary/ spacetravel.

Also If your theory is correct, then shouldn't we be witnessing mercury growing at a measuable and incredible pace?
Afterall somehow Mercury is going to grow to atleast the size of Venus, Earth. Also, is Mercury at this point basically an iron molten core that is spinning? Is it Volcanically Active? Is it attracting Debris to land on it to increase its surface area? Is the planetary growth phase at the end of phase 1 or the start of phase 2, or during both?

And Also How Long is it between Birthing Phases???
Scientists suggest the sun is something like 4.6 billion years old. The oldest Rocks on Earth are the same as the moon which is around 3 billions years old....Also their is evidence that the Sun at somepoint gave birth
to twins which collided and became the asteroid belt, so it could be that the Birthing Phases are irregular in timing.

Are Their Any Sun Experts on here that can talk about Solar Phases? The Sun has been around for around 6 billion years, modern humans only 200,000 years at the most and language far less than that? What I am saying as that we don't know jack about what the sun is capable of doing. We haven't even been witness to what the Earth is Capable of; being Supervolcanic Eruptions, Magnetic Poll Reversal, and Prolonged Ice Ages.

What Happened to the Planet thats supposed to be After Mars???

[edit on 10-3-2007 by Where2Hide2006]



reply posted on 10-3-2007 @ 08:32 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Bryd, for the applause BTW,

If you were standing/floating on the surface of the sun and you were to toss a baseball off of the surface as hard as you could. So hard that the moment it lost its velocity, it was far enough to hold it's orbit (satalites).

If the sun was able to sneeze out a chunk of constituents (like the baseball) why couldn't that chunk stick into an orbit?


First, the sun doesn't have much in the way of constituents other than hydrogen and helium. There's some iron and other elements that have been forged in the sun, but they're heavier than hydrogen and helium and they've sunk all the way to the middle of the sun (more than 200,000 miles below the surface).

You can see the composition of the sun here:
hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...

So there'd have to be some way of delivering the core material to the surface, through 200,000 miles of fusioning hydrogen. The other materials are 18-80 times more massive than the hydrogen of the sun. So they have to 'swim upward' through a thick nuclear fusion soup.

We're talking a huge amount of energy there that's supposed to be focused on one spot (rather than the sun exploding.)

Now... when stars go supernova, they blow up in such a way that the core material is ejected. Of course, any solar system circling them is also trashed, but that's the way that iron and the other heavier metals are formed in our universe.

So... it would take a localized 'supernova' to do that.

You speak about matterless flares ejected, but if the force was stronger couldn't larger objects be ejected?

The force needed would be about 1.5 million miles per hour to deliver it just from the surface into space (I added in some figures for a small rocky planet.) I didn't go into how much of an explosion would be needed to do that, but it should be somewhere in the neighborhood of "supernova."

Again, what if the sun was like a woman and able to change catagorically when pregnant?

Speaking from personal experience, women don't change that much when pregnant. You get hormonal changes, but you're not growing another head on your shoulders. A life form that is able to grow by absorbing part of the nutrients that you eat begins to grow inside you. Some hormonal changes start the lactating process (breast milk) and signal birth and loosen slightly the cartilaginous joints in the pelvis so the baby can emerge. But that's it.

The sun isn't being fed by anything.
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