What are the most elite special forces?, page 10
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reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 08:20 PM by milkyway12
I take it OP is asking about "Special Forces" or does he want " Black Operatives"?

Black Operatives will kill any special forces team in an engagement. Simply due not to physical training but technology.

I am an American , and i only know of American Operatives i dont know how other countries work.

However , you have 3 Echelons of Black Operatives in the United States. The Top TEIR of Operatives actually see very little actually combat. The bottom 2 Tiers see the most.

The 3rd Echelon is SOG Groups in the CIA , Special Operation Groups

The 2nd Echelon is a Task Force of SOG and Special Forces.

The 1st Ehcelon (The names of the Echelons are classified) the 1st is the real deal. Each Operative in this program will cost 30 million dollars to train. With 1.8 to 2.6 billion to Arm. This is where Sci Fi becomes Science Fact.

They are simply known as one man armies. They operate alone but with the full support of certain agencies , they are never truly alone. They are supported by very special UAVs.

If you get to the 1st Echelon , you will never be a true civilian again. You actually never become a True Civilian again in any of the Prioritiesed Echelons but the 1st Echelon you are appointed a place to live given a cell phone and a vehicle to travel in and must report in twice a day and much more im sure. You have Agencies that are branched agencies of your major agencies , and then you have Echelons within these branch agencies , unless your a general agent and you will hear very little of these Echelons (Officially)


reply posted on 18-4-2011 @ 09:44 PM by edog11
You may choose to believe me or not but the following is insider info.
There are 2/3 groups of Special Forces in the USA:
-The so called Tier Two and/or Three which is pretty much SFOD-D, DEVGRU, Rangers etc. You can compare them to SAS, SBS, KCT, Spetsnaz and other similarly structured SF if you like.
-Then there is Tier One.... These are the bearded dudes in Afghanistan you sometimes see on TV or Youtube and they are extremely badass.
They "cleanse" enemy compounds with "only" 2-3 of them and get the job done perfectly.
They are all SF Operators from different groups (CIA, Army, Marines, etc.) who have proven themselves over and over again in combat and were hand picked from those groups because of their excellent skills, even by SF standard.

You know how SF units are supposed to be the best of the best of all infantrymen? Well, these Tier One people are the best of the best of their respective SF units.
When they are hand picked, they get an individual call-sign and don't belong to their former units anymore. Some of these guys practically live in Afghanistan now, that's how much they love their job. They don't do it for the money or "honor". They do it because they are so good at it, it makes regular SF Operators cry.
They fall directly under the control of The Joint Chiefs Of Staff and the President of the USA.

So to answer your question of which "Known" SF is the best, I don't really know. Nobody really knows. Too many unknown variables. My best guess of best "overall" SF unit would be either US SFOD-D, Aussie/British SAS/SBS or Norwegian FSK.
If individual Tier One Operators count then there's no doubt in my mind they take the prize of "Best SF"

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@milkyway12:
Damn it You beat me to it! Good job buddy.

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reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 07:06 PM by bluemirage5
reply to post by Amazon Lights



The Delta Force of the US Military are NOT the most elite; even SAS soldiers (made up of the very best and the most desciplined of all soldiers; they come from Britain, Scotland, NZ, Canada and Australia) are better trained and more superior. In Israel, they too have their own special units as do the Russians and among the French Legion (whom are not all French by the way).


reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 07:27 PM by spy66
reply to post by Skellon



They are not the only SF who
do this kind of entry.

Holding the weapon/barrel as close to the body as possible, pointing at the entering point is something a lot of SF do.
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reply posted on 6-6-2011 @ 01:10 AM by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to
post by Amazon Lights



The Delta Force of the US Military are NOT the most elite; even SAS soldiers (made up of the very best and the most desciplined of all soldiers; they come from Britain, Scotland, NZ, Canada and Australia) are better trained and more superior. In Israel, they too have their own special units as do the Russians and among the French Legion (whom are not all French by the way).


Um... I'm not sure where you got the idea that the SAS is made up of soldiers from different countries

Britain has it's own SAS branch (probably open to all of UK now). I'm pretty sure Australia has their own SAS group, unrelated to the UK. Canada has like three special forces groups, most elite being the JTF2.

As for the French Legion, it's called the French Foreign Legion for a reason: they are traditionally a mercenary fighting force.


reply posted on 16-6-2011 @ 09:45 AM by Skewed
reply to post by Amazon Lights



I did not read through all the posts, sorry if already mentioned.

But, as far as the "nuclear dudes" your friend was referring to, could it be the NEST teams? Nuclear Emergency Support Team.

NEST - Wiki

NEST Fact sheet - US DOE PDF
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