What are the most elite special forces?, page 8
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reply posted on 31-7-2008 @ 10:12 PM by mabus325
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SAS is not as good as the SBS. The SBS assumes that soldiers can do elementary stuff, like, map reading.


reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 03:31 PM by bannick
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the name of the USMC Spec Ops program is MARSOC. it used to be all the Recon, Sniper, Scout, and QBC elements were separate, but now they are all integrated. at least thats what my recruiter told me. there is one recon unit in the USMC that isnt in MARSOC yet, but its not any different.


reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 04:01 PM by Sniper_Instructor
Originally posted by DavidLilley
By far and away the world's premier SF unit, and the one to which all others aspire, is the SAS. The only guys who come even close are the Aussie SAS

1)The SAS 'wrote the book' on SF operations

2)were the original SF unit, having been formed during WW2approx 25 years before the US had their own SF.

3)Have been involved in more major conflicts than any other SF group

4) Have never been unsuccessful in any of the above

5) Even the founder of Delta Force stated publically that among SF units 'there is the SAS and then there's everyone else'

[edit on 7-2-2008 by DavidLilley]


Sorry my friend you have a short memory when you say the SAS have never been unsucesssful.

Operation Desert Storm 1990 Bravo Two Zero ?
Of the eight SAS Troopers who deployed into Iraq, only five returned. Dropped into the infamous "Scud Alley" carrying 210 pound (almost 100 kilo) back packs, McNab and his men soon found themselves surrounded by the enemy. Their radios failed to work; the weather was brutally cold; they had been spotted, resulting in the mission being compromised.

The heavy 150 lb (50 kg) 319 Satcom radios, said to work over a distance of 500 km, needed to be relayed to an AWAC within 200 km; what the patrol did not know was that the closest AWAC was over the Greek sea, about 700 km away.

The Bergens they carried had two full water bottles, enough ready to eat, boil in the bag rations to last the duration of the patrol and medical kits, as well as their assault rifles and light machine guns (ArmaLite Colt Commando M230'ss featuring an M203 Grenade launchers and FN Minimi LMGs), "66" Anti Tank launchers.

Three patrol members died, and four were tortured and interrogated, because of the lack of adequate equipment and misinformation about geographical terrain and target locations.
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