Me and my friend were talking and he told me that there are some guys 'called nuclear dudes' not the real name but thats what he said. I told him it was Delta force. Which is the most elite one out there? The ones with the invisible suits like predator..

[edit on 7-3-2007 by Amazon Lights]

Well I don't know about the invisable suits...

Are you asking for the most elite U.S. or international unit?

This topic was debated to death already, so let's no go there all over again. There's no surefire answer. Anyway, chances are the different most elite special forces in the world are working in cooperation together, not against each others.

To address your invisible predator suits, sorry to disappoint you, but this stuff comes out of movies or video games.

In current conflicts, special forces are dressed in civil clothing from the region to blend in with the locals. Not as exciting, I admit, but disguising as a tree is not always the right tool for the job.

Well, this is an easy question to answer.

There can be no question. The most elite special forces in the world are SFOD-E, the Echo group. So unknown, so secretive, that no-one outside the group has ever heard of them. One full letter better than those crap SFOD-D Delta Force pukes. Way way better than your piker low-life SFOD-A types.

SFOD-E has to re-pass the Q every week. But that's not tough enough, so they have to do the 12 mile over hurdles. With a 75 pound ruck. On some of the jumps, you have to do a 360 spin and shoot 10 rings on 7 random pop-up targets with a side arm. Worse, it's a revolver, so you have to reload in midair for the last one.

Edit: I hear they're going to allow speed loaders next year.

[edit on 7-3-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Well, this is an easy question to answer.

There can be no question. The most elite special forces in the world are SFOD-E, the Echo group. So unknown, so secretive, that no-one outside the group has ever heard of them. One full letter better than those crap SFOD-D Delta Force pukes. Way way better than your piker low-life SFOD-A types.

SFOD-E has to re-pass the Q every week. But that's not tough enough, so they have to do the 12 mile over hurdles. With a 75 pound ruck. On some of the jumps, you have to do a 360 spin and shoot 10 rings on 7 random pop-up targets with a side arm. Worse, it's a revolver, so you have to reload in midair for the last one.

Edit: I hear they're going to allow speed loaders next year.

[edit on 7-3-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

Pshaw ... I know of a group that's even tougher than that! They're so secret that most of them don't even know they're members, much less what they are called!

Sorry ... Just kidding, but I couldn't let that one go by with no response.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Well, this is an easy question to answer.

There can be no question. The most elite special forces in the world are SFOD-E, the Echo group. So unknown, so secretive, that no-one outside the group has ever heard of them. One full letter better than those crap SFOD-D Delta Force pukes. Way way better than your piker low-life SFOD-A types.

SFOD-E has to re-pass the Q every week. But that's not tough enough, so they have to do the 12 mile over hurdles. With a 75 pound ruck. On some of the jumps, you have to do a 360 spin and shoot 10 rings on 7 random pop-up targets with a side arm. Worse, it's a revolver, so you have to reload in midair for the last one.

Edit: I hear they're going to allow speed loaders next year.

[edit on 7-3-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

came to post this

Thanks for not caring about my post most of you mocking me.

Thank you for that post I added to your reputation. So I guess I wasn't to far off when I said Delta. I know about those others but I would believe Delta would be the best because of the U.S. budget and mixed population that would give them a great pool of people to choose from. I still believe that they have some form of optical camo like we saw in the predator movies. Maybe only the best of the best get that or when they are doing 'splinter cell' like missions.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Well, this is an easy question to answer.

There can be no question. The most elite special forces in the world are SFOD-E, the Echo group. So unknown, so secretive, that no-one outside the group has ever heard of them. One full letter better than those crap SFOD-D Delta Force pukes. Way way better than your piker low-life SFOD-A types.


Edit: I hear they're going to allow speed loaders next year.

[edit on 7-3-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

ummmm and you know this because....

Sarcasm elevatedone, ever hear of it?

The United States Navy S.E.A.L.s versus the Delta Force (Aka the Unit)

The rest are just fodder for them

The ones that are responsible for stealing the world supply of socks from everyones washing machine. Notice nobody ever see's them. Thats because they are the best in the world, pro's at being stealthy. And why not, They are a detachement from the government tasked to collect socks for the Greys who use them in their new revolutionary energy reactor that powers their latest ships. Why do you think nobody ever lost their socks before the invention of the clothes washing machine and dryer? It wasn't because they only owned one pair of socks.

Spec. Operations Group GSS-Detachement Grey Sock. Never heard of them have you? Cause they are busy fullfilling earths most important mission to our space brothers.

Originally posted by Amazon Lights
Sarcasm elevatedone, ever hear of it?

Actually, SFOD-E has been a long standing joke here, sort of like Chuck Norris jokes. Only we've gotten to where we can pull it off at customer sites.

Most people we do business with, the fun thing is to drop some accurately jargoned reference to it, then look embarrassed and say "never mind" or "I shouldn't have brought it up". You have to do it with a straight face.

The fun thing is we all know to back up each other's stories so if someone asks one of the other guys it's "Who told you that" with this real serious face, or "Dammit, Tom knows better than to discuss that...you're not cleared".

We've had brass call Tampa trying to find out who they are and why they didn't know about it. Very amusing.

The most fun is after a couple of us guys tell this junk to someone, denying it later just makes your victim more convinced he's onto something secret.

I'm starting to get new SFOD-E stories I haven't told so I'm pretty sure it's building critical mass out there somewhere.

Navy Seals #1
Delta #2

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam

Originally posted by Amazon Lights
Sarcasm elevatedone, ever hear of it?

Actually, SFOD-E has been a long standing joke here, sort of like Chuck Norris jokes. Only we've gotten to where we can pull it off at customer sites.

Most people we do business with, the fun thing is to drop some accurately jargoned reference to it, then look embarrassed and say "never mind" or "I shouldn't have brought it up". You have to do it with a straight face.

The fun thing is we all know to back up each other's stories so if someone asks one of the other guys it's "Who told you that" with this real serious face, or "Dammit, Tom knows better than to discuss that...you're not cleared".

We've had brass call Tampa trying to find out who they are and why they didn't know about it. Very amusing.

The most fun is after a couple of us guys tell this junk to someone, denying it later just makes your victim more convinced he's onto something secret.

I'm starting to get new SFOD-E stories I haven't told so I'm pretty sure it's building critical mass out there somewhere.

i asked Ding Chavez of team Rainbow if they recruited him from SFOD-E and he wouldnt answer me, and hes a long time friend. its just not like him. makes me wonder.

My vote goes to Air Force Pararescue.

Helicopter drop behind enemy lines, find the downed pilot the other side is looking for in their own country. Perform medical procedures as necessary to stabilize pilot for transport, including minor surgery. Transport injured pilot through enemy territory to LZ or by land to friendly forces.

Your bang-bang shoot-em-up guys are all well and good, but it takes great big clanking brass things to do the above ops, knowing you are going to be carrying at least one person back.

Originally posted by Well

i asked Ding Chavez of team Rainbow if they recruited him from SFOD-E and he wouldnt answer me, and hes a long time friend. its just not like him. makes me wonder.

"Team Rainbow"...pretty much tells you everything you need to know. Maybe Clancy has some Clark/Chavez slash fic on the side under a pen name or something.

A proper team should be obscene, cryptic, or named after a critter you could sort of respect, like Badger or Fox.

edit: I don't read Clancy much anymore, is he still farming out all his novels under his name? His first stuff was great, but when he started relabeling all his work it sort of went downhill.

[edit on 8-3-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

I do hope that the OP realizes that this thread will more than likely end up being closed because these types of threads never remain civil.


That said,you'll never know who the most elite special forces are because the best of everything the military has is secret. F-22,our best military plane.Yet everyone knows its not our "best".

You have a point caravan they are usually pretty silent about what they release to us and it's always outdated. Hearing Rainbow 6 brought up makes me wonder. Who would be one of the heroes of the special forces underworld. Chavez??