its him its him its him! he looks like an evil santa clause but its him!
GO 4TH ID!
[Edited on 12-14-2003 by KrazyIvan]
Originally posted by SimpleTruth
Hey FULCRUM CYRUS and MOJOM,
Do you know how entertaining it is to read your pathetic rhetoric?Truth is biting you and you're letting your dislike for Bush get the best of you. "Oh, it's all AMERICA'S FAULT. BUSH IS EVIL! OIL OIL OIL!" You are making fools of yourselves. The funny thing is, no matter what would happen, you would always side against Bush. Oh and just to let you know, NBC reports, they have documents now confirming a link and collaboration between Saddam and Mohammad Atta. In other words, a connection with Al Qaeda! Go ahead. DENY THAT ONE!

Originally posted by Johnny
Originally posted by SimpleTruth
Hey FULCRUM CYRUS and MOJOM,
Do you know how entertaining it is to read your pathetic rhetoric?Truth is biting you and you're letting your dislike for Bush get the best of you. "Oh, it's all AMERICA'S FAULT. BUSH IS EVIL! OIL OIL OIL!" You are making fools of yourselves. The funny thing is, no matter what would happen, you would always side against Bush. Oh and just to let you know, NBC reports, they have documents now confirming a link and collaboration between Saddam and Mohammad Atta. In other words, a connection with Al Qaeda! Go ahead. DENY THAT ONE!
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO IMPAIR THE AUTHORITY OF RESPECTED MEMBERS!?
Grey(god)deamn, this democrack theory starts to work for me...
Another one brainwashed?
I don't want to offend but show some respect! They have a point, what have you got exept the NBC propaganda??
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I love this in FULCRUMS signature
[Edited on 14-12-2003 by Johnny]
trip. (barf copyright fulcrum. i never though one man could make something so cliche.)Originally posted by Quicksilver
oh yea and this is great news and its quite disturbing that many of you look on this as a bad thing! A man who cause geonocide on alot of people,
Are you sure it was Saddam that gassed the Kurds?
1990 Pentagon report
Iraqi Power and U.S. Security in the Middle East
Excerpt, Chapter 5
U.S. SECURITY AND IRAQI POWER
Significant numbers of the Kurds had launched a revolt against Baghdad and in the process teamed up with Tehran. As soon as the war with Iran ended, Iraq announced its determination to crush the Kurdish insurrection. It sent Republican Guards to the Kurdish area, and in the course of this operation -- according to the U.S. State Department -- gas was used, with the result that numerous Kurdish civilians were killed. The Iraqi government denied that any such gassing had occurred. Nonetheless, Secretary of State Schultz stood by U.S. accusations, and the U.S. Congress, acting on its own, sought to impose economic sanctions on Baghdad as a violator of the Kurds’ human rights.
Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Department’s claim that gas was used in this instance...
It appears that in seeking to punish Iraq, the Congress was influenced by another incident that occurred five months earlier in another Iraqi-Kurdish city, Halabjah. In March 1988, the Kurds at Halabjah were bombarded with chemical weapons, producing a great many deaths. Photographs of the Kurdish victims were widely disseminated in the international media. Iraq was blamed for the Halabjah attack, even though it was subsequently brought out that Iran too had used chemicals in this operation, and it seemed likely that it was the Iranian bombardment that had actually killed the Kurds. members.aol.com...
And don't ever forget, the US is responsible for the death of nearly a million Iraqi civilians, 500,000 of which were children, through our economic sanctions. This number doesn't even include the thousands of civilians that have died as a direct result of this war.
brutely tortured his political opponents,
The US is illegally detaining "enemy combatants" without charges, legal representation, or even contact with their family members. The Administration won't answer to anyone, even Congress, about who is being held or what they are being held for. Can't say for sure if they are being tortured, but it has been claimed that they are.
raping wive of his enemies,
As far as I know, Bush is not guilty of this, but most Iraqi women are still afraid to go outside after dark because of the high potential to be attacked
invader of other countries,
We, definitely, cannot accuse Saddam of that without being hypocrites. We have made it our personal mission to bring democracy to the world, whether it wants it or not.
and finally just a bad dude.
Sort of like our own corporate puppet and pathological liar of a president.
Even if the USA's reasons were not just in the beggining of this war for goin in (even tho i believe they were) this end result is undeniably a good thing.
So, the ends justify the means, huh? It doesn't matter how much our President, the elected servant of the people, lied to us, in order to get us into a war to line his pocketbook? None of it matters because one of the side-effects, was that we removed Saddam from power and have now arrested him? Don't tell that to the Americans that have lost loved ones thanks to this greed fueled war, or go read some of the stories from Iraqi's that have had their homes destroyed and innocent spouses and children killed at the hands of the US military, and then tell them that. www.counterpunch.org...
This is what Condoleeza Rice had to say about the reason Iraq was a "clear and present" threat:
March 13, 2002
Bush's State of the Union message focused attention on WMD and turned up the heat on certain countries which National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said "are a clear and present danger" to the United States and the rest of the civilized world. Why? "Because the Iranians, who spread and support terror around the world, the North Koreans, who proliferate these weapons, and the Iraqis, who make a region of great importance to us unstable, clearly are a clear and present threat to America, America's interests, and America's allies."
usembassy.state.gov...
And i challange anyone on this board to say his capture was a bad thing.
He was definitely a man who didn't need to be in power, and I'm sure all of the people who suffered at his hand are thrilled he's been removed from power and arrested. Most of them would be equally thrilled to see the US get the hell out of their country
Look at the pictures of the citizens in Iraq do they look liek it is a bad thing!!! NO, they are thrilled they are finally liberated from a cruel dictator and now can fianlly have some freedoms and live without the fear of him pillaging you house and raping your wife!
The ousting of one dictatorship just to replace it with another is good only because they're now being oppressed by the lesser of the two evils.
[Edited on 14-12-2003 by jezebel]