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That's cool, as I myself will totally disregard anything you have to say based on the fact you believe the Holy Spirit to be irrational.
I tried finding on the web once about how many gays said that they were born gay. so far I haven't found any sites.
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By Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard Science is rapidly converging on the conclusion that sexual orientation is innate. It has found that homosexuals often act differently from heterosexuals in early childhood, before they have even heard of sex. A recent study by Simon LeVay, a neurobiologist at the Salk Institute, reported a difference in the hypothalamus, a part of the brain that develops at a young age, between homosexual and heterosexual men.
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As the culture wars rage over gay rights, a flock of sheep at Oregon State University may help answer a key question behind the controversy: Is homosexuality a matter of choice or biology?
The Corvallis herd includes a group of rams that scientists delicately refer to as "male-oriented." These animals consistently ignore females and bestow all their amorous attentions on members of their own sex.
Researcher Charles Roselli says a decade of study suggests sexual orientation is largely hard-wired into the sheep's brains before birth. Now, he's trying to figure out how that happens, zeroing in on genes and hormones. In a bold test of his ideas, he hopes to engineer the birth of gay rams by altering conditions in the womb.
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A new study on homosexuality is being used to back up the contention that sexual orientation is determined in the womb and not by sociological factors.
North American researchers say a study of almost 1,000 Canadian men found a link between homosexuality and the number of older brothers a man has. Such an association has been reported before, but in the past left open the possibility that both biological or sociological factors may play a role.
This time, however, the researchers say the link appears to exist irrespective of whether the man was brought up with the brothers.
There seems to be NO GENE in the human body that says you will be gay.
They had done survies years ago and everyone either was raised around gays, or had been sexually molested as a child or young adult
Originally posted by Spawwwn
i think this is a good thing. as long as this doesn't become a mandatory shot for humans..then i support this reasearch. i know a lot of people will cry and say this is messed up, especially the gay community, but i think this will only benefit those parents who do not want their children living that lifestyle.
while i have nothing against the gays, if there was a shot or a patch like they say, that would prevent my kid from being gay (or retarted, disabled, deformed, or sickly) then i would ask my wife to take the medication. plus if it works after birth, then maybe some people who don't want to be gay could take this and be normal. believe it or not there are some people who do not like being gay, but they can't help it.
i've always stated that i thought homosexuality was a genetic dysfunction of some kind. I mean it's common science. Man + Woman = Life. That's the way it works in human nature, and in 95% of animal nature. it's just the way things were ment to be. religion and politics aside, lets be real there would be no living things on earth if male and female species did not procreate. So homosexuality is like getting your wires crossed genetically. It's not a choice or a sin really, just a simple geneitic flaw much like many other geneitc flaws.
I say go for it and push this science further. I think it's our duties as humans to cull out as many genetic weaknesses as we can. There are so many babies that are born that are essitially just draining society. babies with brain defects or babies that are not born with all their limbs or something..are just brining regular able bodied people in society. It's harsh but i honestly feel that we would benefit from ridding our society of these problems.
I don't think people should use this for vanity. Like i don't think that you should just be able to "create-a-baby" like it was a video game..and be able to choose eye color and height or whatever. But If there was some kind of medicine you could take while pregnent to ensure that your baby would not come out brain dead, or deformed, or gay..then i think it's our duties as humans to research that science.
Immagine if you could take something during pregnency that would make your kid immune to AIDS or cancer. what if you could prevent him from getting genetic deasieses later in life like parkisans, or alzheimers? shouldn't we do everythign in our power to make true? that's why stem cells, and studies like this one are vital to more forward as a species.
Cloning even partially has some potential, as long as it's used in the right way. Think about this..what about all these people who get burned beyond recognition. ever since i was a kid i've probly felt more emotion towards those people than any other people who haev had some kind of tragic event to them. burned people are just turned into monsters.
So what if we could take away their pain and essentially clone them a new body? or real replacement skin? Even with grafts burn victims are deformed for life...there's nothing anyone can do to help them. But what if they could go back to looking EXACTLY the way they did before they were burned? It's our duty, to find new ways of science to help these people..and studies like this are the path to that type of world.
so while i have mixed feelings about this study..i support it full heartedly. We need to think ahead to figure out how we can twist and malnipulate our genetics a bit. I'm not saying lets play god, but lets help these poor souls who can't function as regular people have a normal life..even if it is just a simple thing as malnipulating sexual preference for right now.
Originally posted by rocknroll
Gay men say they're spiritual, but heck, bring up God or Jesus and they don't want to talk about it. Well, in my book, your spirit came from God and no one else. So, how can you be spiritual if you deny who made your spirit? Answer: You can't, you're fooling yourself. Another hypocrisy in the gay world.
Originally posted by rocknroll
If homosexuality was eliminated you'd probably see AIDS disappear in this country (just about).
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the huge wave of AIDS that killed thousands upon thousands of gay men in the 1980's. They all died because of their promiscuity. Which cannot be denied (it wouldn't have spread like wildfire if they hadn't been so promiscuous). Every gay man I know who came down with AIDS was a promiscuous,sex addicted, slut who hopped from bed to bed so often he couldn't even remember the amount of men he slept with. Play with fire, and you get burned.
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Hmmmm, guess that's why all the poeple I've known who've gotten it and/or died were gay. And you're wrong 64% of all new cases in the USA this year were gay men alone.
Can anyone here answer to me, WHY the only people that care about the issue of biological/cognitive homosexuality are either gay themselves, have a gay family member, or are in denial about their own status?
IDK, It just seems that the only people that shout and scream about these issues are the homophobic/homosexual people themselves.
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Can anyone here answer to me, WHY the only people that care about the issue of biological/cognitive homosexuality are either gay themselves, have a gay family member, or are in denial about their own status?
I care, and I'm none of the above.
I'm interested in a lot of subjects that don't directly affect me - and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Your assumption is incorrect, I think.
...what interests me most about this particular story is the potential for it to evolve into something much, much bigger. If this hormone adjustment technology expands to include control over other behaviors, specifically violence, we could be fast approaching a utopian/dystopian societal threshold.
I went to an all boys school and I noticed that gay people were always more likely to be spending time in sick bay than other people. I bet any proper study would show gay people are more likely to develop everything to the common cold.
I’ve always wondered what (in evolutionary terms) the purpose of homosexuality is.
Is it a way of “aborting” a potentially unhealthy child without killing it? This could make sense as it would it would provide the tribe-clan with the physical advantages of having an extra member; without that member feeling the need to reproduce. It could also be more complicated than that.
This link says: www.cbcrp.org...
quote: Lesbians were more likely to live in urban areas (50%) than their sisters (31 %, p
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
I care, and I'm none of the above.
I'm interested in a lot of subjects that don't directly affect me - and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Your assumption is incorrect, I think.
Well, that's one thing, what you said earlier is another. There's a difference between being interested, and being a loudmouthed, obnoxious jerk about the issue. I think people can be interested in a subject without foaming at the mouth, no?
To be honest though, what interests me most about this particular story is the potential for it to evolve into something much, much bigger. If this hormone adjustment technology expands to include control over other behaviors, specifically violence, we could be fast approaching a utopian/dystopian societal threshold.
Change excites me.
Originally posted by apc
There's a reason nature has produced homosexuality. A response to localized overpopulation, a pacification of mating desire, the need for herds/communities to grow stronger bonds... Whatever the reason, it must be a good one.
Originally posted by GemwolfI have a healthy relationship with my Creator. And I have a healthy relationship with a guy.
Originally posted by GemwolfSo what's the difference between you and me? You don't act on your sexual urges to be with a guy. And you do this because you believe this is the way God want you to live even though HE made you who and what you are.
Originally posted by GemwolfI on the other hand am just as convinced as you that my soul have been saved, BUT I don't hide behind religion. I live. I made peace with God. I made peace with who I am.
Originally posted by GemwolfI have a healthy relationship with God and I know with 100% certainty that I'm saved. Maybe we should chat again about this on Judgement day? Or maybe we could talk about how Jesus, hundreds of years later removed all the ancient by-laws with love, and preached day in and day out about love for one another? I know what you're going to say next, and the answer is love does not equal sex. And yes, I know the difference.
Originally posted by rocknroll
Originally posted by GemwolfI have a healthy relationship with my Creator. And I have a healthy relationship with a guy.
Can't be healthy if you're where you're at. Your happiness won't last because it's false. And we're only hearing your side of the story. Wonder what God think's of you? When you get to the gates and he tells you you're not allowed in because you showed no remorse or sorrow for the homosexual lifestyle (sin) that you lived in (an abomination - although quite a pleaurable one to us gay guys). You're going to tell him, "I was born this way, I couldn't help it, men will be men....it's only human nature? There was no way I couldn't act on this!" He's gonna pull me out and say, "This is St. Robert, he was just like you, same feelings, but he listened to the Holy Spirit and ignored his human nature, understood my word. He is welcome in my kingdom, but you..........you ignored and disobeyed me strictly for your own happiness and pleaure." This is selfishness.
Originally posted by rocknroll
I don't think he "made" me gay. I think somewhere along the line "sin" came into my life (thoughts) and it occurred. You yourself act on your human nature and prefer a life of carnal pleasure. I don't. It only leads to sorrow down the road. You've chosen vice over virtue.God didn't make me gay. I chose to act on my homosexual desires, much the way a serial killer decides to murder when it excites him or a thieve steals for material gratification. Different degress of sin, but all sins nonetheless. As a Christian you must know by now it's forbidden by God and if you can't understand why then you aren't a very good Christian. You are either with Him or against Him.
Originally posted by rocknroll
You don't sound at peace at all, sorry.
You wouldn't be responding to this thread if you were at peace. You're not at peace so quit fooling yourself. You worry about your soul. It's all over your post. I don't hide behind religion, I dwell within it, and have learned to use it to better my life. As a Christian you should know Jesus wanted His believers to spread His message to others. Any Christian who says Jesus thought homosexuality was "ay okay" is a liar. You know this.
Originally posted by rocknroll
I'm not as proud as you (did you know pride is a sin also?). I cannot say I'm 100% certain I'm going to be saved, but I am working toward it. To be honest, if I do make the cut, I highly doubt I'll see you there with your self righteous homosexual cavalier attitude. I can't see Jesus siding with your attitude. He's all about total perfection and purity and I doubt very much he wants decadence in heaven.
Brotherly love, not sexual. And if you know this, why did you bring it up?
Originally posted by GemwolfEarlier in this thread you asked another poster who he is to judge.
Originally posted by GemwolfYou remind me a lot of another "retired gay member" of ATS, zerotolerance. He shares a lot of your opinions. Wouldn't be surprised if you're actually one and the same person?
Originally posted by GemwolfSee, part of any healthy relationship is communication. Not God speaks and I listen and that's that. Or vice versa. I converse with God. He speaks to me, and I speak to Him. He has personally assured me that I have been saved. What you're saying is that God is lying to me?
Originally posted by GemwolfLater in your reply you call me/my attitude "self righteous homosexual cavalier attitude"... Yet you think you are a Saint? So much for being humble.
Originally posted by GemwolfYou think God don't want us to be happy? If the god you pray to doesn't want you to be happy, then he's a pretty mean god. I know the God I worship is happy when I'm happy and sad when I'm sad. Great God, my God.