lol. i searched for the Caveat Redemptor using the exact phrase on google and couldnt find the document itself

a modern slave is a person that bitches and never does anything about it excepts complains, reads up on what to complain about and complains some more. It's a vicious cycle with no end. The truth is, that a winner was pronounced a long time ago. All you have now is the victors and those complaining about there fate (France, Germany and China, North Korea(they lost before they knew the war was over)).

Winners= USA, UK, Russia(although I think the russians just switched sides from the losser to the winner in the last couple of minutes and left its allies to fry)

Countries that are in big trouble, US, France and UK.

Kind of like the 7 years war, although Britian won, they lost the colonies. Same thing we are seeing with the US, although they were victorious, they will lose their gains due to the credibility they lost and the debt that they will gain.

State to rebel first is Cali, followed by Texas, within the next 10 years.

What defeated the Euro's, lack of knowledge.
P.S. check out Mexico, now and then, you might find something interesting.

So who owns who, thats not the question, who influences more should be it.

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It's infuriating, we get taxed every time we turn around. And most people don't even know that the federal income tax is unconstitutional and immoral.

what's even worse, is the federal government is the most inefficient monstrosity known to man. Waste, waste and more waste - everywhere.
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Trust me when I say that that money goes somewhere, the problem is that it is done electronically so it cant be traced, but trust me its going where it needs to go.

Fox

Originally posted by FoxStriker
EastCoastKid-
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It's infuriating, we get taxed every time we turn around. And most people don't even know that the federal income tax is unconstitutional and immoral.

what's even worse, is the federal government is the most inefficient monstrosity known to man. Waste, waste and more waste - everywhere.
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Trust me when I say that that money goes somewhere, the problem is that it is done electronically so it cant be traced, but trust me its going where it needs to go.

Fox

If it can't be traced then how can anyone say that it is going where it is supposed to? They certainly haven't done anything to earn our trust in the last century. Seeing as how the military alone "lost" 2 trillion dollars, and have no explanation for what happened or where it went, I'm not very inclined to just take their word for it.

Yee haaaw! I hope it just gets worse. Maybe people will just get so pissed that we will finally burn this mother#er down!!!

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If it can't be traced then how can anyone say that it is going where it is supposed to? They certainly haven't done anything to earn our trust in the last century. Seeing as how the military alone "lost" 2 trillion dollars, and have no explanation for what happened or where it went, I'm not very inclined to just take their word for it.
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True, but the thing is that the military does know where the money goes or should I say the UN, they just don't tell the public nor the media, and I would think that they lie to their own military officers and people in command in order to keep this lie.

PS, I really doubt Bush even knows what he got himself into.

The US Gov't is a two sided mirror that reflects nothing to either side except to those who built it.

Originally posted by FoxStriker
EastCoastKid-
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It's infuriating, we get taxed every time we turn around. And most people don't even know that the federal income tax is unconstitutional and immoral.

what's even worse, is the federal government is the most inefficient monstrosity known to man. Waste, waste and more waste - everywhere.
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Trust me when I say that that money goes somewhere, the problem is that it is done electronically so it cant be traced, but trust me its going where it needs to go.

Fox

Which would be......
the coffers of which organizations????

Surely, you don't really believe it's going where it will do the most benefit???

And, anothr thing, since it IS all done electronically, does it all really exist?

Great post Jezebel.

Think Einstein put it best

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

Jez, you are sounding like a Patriot. Good deal.

I only skimmed after the bullet that mentioned the Civil War being a scam. The fact is, there was no "Civil War", but a civil police action. And, as I've mentioned before, when the legislative branch did not show up for formation, our form of government died because of Sine Die (The sun set on our government). That is when our woes began.

This is a very good thread, and it should make many people think and decide to do their own research. I mean heavy research. I mean spend a few years and many $$$ on this research. Learn the basics, the beginning of this nation, follow along and see where statutes became the rule instead of constitutional law. Follow the gold, and the money trail, not to mention the power. See what kind of damage the 14th amendment did to the nation, basically denying the citizen their God-given rights and replacing them with "civil" rights.
After you spend all this time and money learning this, as I have, ask yourself, "Great. Now what good does it do me when the rest of the nation is ignorant and apathetic?"
Maybe if more people resist the reeducation and pursue the truth it'll mean something.


Good call, Jez. Don't stop learning.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Jez, you are sounding like a Patriot. Good deal.

I only skimmed after the bullet that mentioned the Civil War being a scam. The fact is, there was no "Civil War", but a civil police action. And, as I've mentioned before, when the legislative branch did not show up for formation, our form of government died because of Sine Die (The sun set on our government). That is when our woes began.

This is a very good thread, and it should make many people think and decide to do their own research. I mean heavy research. I mean spend a few years and many $$$ on this research. Learn the basics, the beginning of this nation, follow along and see where statutes became the rule instead of constitutional law. Follow the gold, and the money trail, not to mention the power. See what kind of damage the 14th amendment did to the nation, basically denying the citizen their God-given rights and replacing them with "civil" rights.
After you spend all this time and money learning this, as I have, ask yourself, "Great. Now what good does it do me when the rest of the nation is ignorant and apathetic?"
Maybe if more people resist the reeducation and pursue the truth it'll mean something.


Good call, Jez. Don't stop learning.

Thomas, I am suprised.

I've been reading your posts and comments for almost four years now and this is the first time when you make sense.

That's because we are looking at it from two different angles. I see it from simply a factual and legal point of view.
What ever the nation wants is how it should be. It should not be through slight of hand. Those in control, however, have not our good will at heart but only their own ends in mind.

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Which would be......
the coffers of which organizations????

Surely, you don't really believe it's going where it will do the most benefit???

And, anothr thing, since it IS all done electronically, does it all really exist?
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Unfortunetely I can't tell you exactly where the money goes because it don't know except for one incident, where a bill was past for about one billion in washington to assist a neighboring country, unfortunetly, I never heard the country received any sort of bill, I'm pretty sure it was a European nation during the cold war.

Where did the money go you ask, don't know, but that amount somehow ended up in a small architectual company 3 or 4 years before, the payer= US (through some agency), I wish I could find the article, but I don't even think it exist anymore.

I saw it once and never again.

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Surely, you don't really believe it's going where it will do the most benefit???

And, anothr thing, since it IS all done electronically, does it all really exist?
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I would honestly bet you that the only money that is lost to corruption is the money that is allowed to be lost so it gives the people some answer to where it goes.
Do I believe that the money is going where it needs to go? YES, no doubt in my mind, greed is catchy, once it gets a hold on you, it never lets go, especially if you like the way it feels.

What organization do I think its going into, small construction, agencies, toward science and tech institutions (all under different names of course).

Does the money exist, yes, but only for moments. The thing about electronic transfer of money is that it can be made up if you have a bank or an agency that deals with cash to play along.

Don't think as money as cold, hard cash, when talking about it electronically, think about it as I.O.U.'s which can be payed back for favors. What I'm basically saying is the concept of "if you scratch my back I'll scratch yours". Best way I can say it is when you get into a car accident and both of the recepients agree not to get the car insurence involved.

[Edited on 3/3/2004 by FoxStriker]

So, who owns the UN?

Colonel
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So, who owns the UN?
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It's not who owns the UN, it's on whos payroll they are on, in my oppinion Corporations do, but I would believe that it would be very hard to trace it down to even one of the Corporations. They all deal through agencies and it is done months or years in advance to keep up pretences (my own oppinion).

What I don't like is that they leave the tab to the citizens to pick up. A budget is not hard to keep. There is always money to be moved around, even if doesn't exist.

Basically all the open markets are controlled so those who are rich stay rich and those who try can hopefully luck out.

The stock market in my oppinion is a gamblers paradise, if you know how to read the market your on lucky son of a btch. Same as if you were to learn to count cards in a casino.

Colonel, long time no response to. MODERATOR, not bad.

Originally posted by Colonel
So, who owns the UN?

Well, wasn't the UN charter written by Council on Foreign Relations.
I would think the UN is the front for NWO. In other words, it is run by those who rule the world. The ground for the building was given by the Rockefellers, who are big in CFR.

[Edited on 3-3-2004 by DontTreadOnMe]

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

What ever the nation wants is how it should be.

Although I agree with many things you say as far as how our country is supposed to be TC...How can you say that "What ever the nation wants is how it should be."

How far can that go??? What if the majority of americans believed that slavery was ok??? Does that mean you would allow that???

Some things must been done for our basic human rights regardless of what the majority wants.

McGotti, what I'm saying is if the nation, that is to say the people, make an informed and educated decision to leave the way set forth by the Founding Fathers and follow another path, then they as a society should be able to do so, figuring the same percentage as necessary to pass an amendment. However, they had better be willing to take the responsibility and the Divine consequence that may be associated with the decision. Free will, rather than being led by trickery and deceit, which is Satanic.

McGotti, what I'm saying is if the nation, that is to say the people, make an informed and educated decision to leave the way set forth by the Founding Fathers and follow another path, then they as a society should be able to do so, figuring the same percentage as necessary to pass an amendment.

Ok I understand that..but I feel that the underlining freedoms provided by the constitution can not be compromised....popular vote or not.

The people in charge have to many ways to take avantage of us if they are allowed to change whatever they want in the constitution.The original constitution should be left unchanged and protected to the death!

all IMO of coarse

Taxes are required.

Without taxes how would we fund schools, hospitals, libraries, and our government?

You say the original constitution, but it was amended right out of the gates. I know what you mean, though, we should not undermine the moral and spiritual foundation that has supported this nation and made us strong. But what if the nation forgets all of that? You have and deserve rights because you are aware of the rights that the Creator endowed you. If you are ignorant of them, or you aren't willing to preserve them, do you as an individual or a nation, deserve them?

Look, you'll be hard pressed to find an average Joe who has read of the constitution more than I, but I'll tell you now, I'm against the reading of ones' rights by the arresting officer. If you are unaware of the right, you are undeserving. If you give it up on your own, you make your own choice, choose your own path and reap the consequences.
No matter what is at stake, we still have the God-given right to go our own way, trust in the Government instead of God, and worship the System. True enough, alot is at stake, but nobody is concerned with that.