SeaHenge

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If anyone in ATS heard about this before can you prvide any links related to this [links posted before this article] as this is the 1st time I hear about this....thanks.

Looks to me to be some sort of fish trap.

Your article says nothing whatsoever about any alignments with astronomical objects, etc.

On the other hand, fish "corrals" similar in shape and composition to this "seahenge" structure have been in use for millenia.

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Harte
it has a northeast alignment
as a student of ancient history I'm sure I don't have to tell you what that means but basically you can take it as read that its not a fish trap

The fully grown tree planted roots up in the center is also another clue that this is more than just a fish trap.

To me it is a symbol of the Underworld




I've even painted it


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whats your reasoning on that ?

To tell the truth, I've been interested in such symbols for a long time. Wherever I first became aware of it is lost to me, but it precedes me ever having a computer, so I would hazard a guess my understanding originates from books.

My gut instinct says Blake's The White Goddess.

A bit of Googling, and I managed to rake in a few sites which mention it;

I think drawing a link between vedic mysticism and the Kabbalah and a henge in norfolk is a little tenuous Masqua


if you could prove a link between inverted trees and the underworld and ancient norse mythology then you might be closer
any ideas there ?

Sea'henge' is just another ancient monument, as are woodhenge and stonehenge.

And just to make sure you all know, seahenge is not actually a henge.

A henge has an internal ditch, external bank. Because of stonehenge, people started assuming that all stone/wood circle monuments were henges. Hence, woodhenge/seahenge.

: )

First of all, Marduk... I did say;



...signifying personal opinion and not proof. We are, after all, talking about 4 millenia and a time little understood.

Hitting the books a little proved to be interesting, though, because I drew many examples of 'World Trees' from cultures as varied as the Maya and the shaman of Tibet.

One of the best quotes I could muster on such short notice was;



note that the tree is inverted, so the shaman climbs up towards the roots. In maya culture, there are three worlds...the upper spirit world, the middle world and the underworld which is symbolized by the roots of the 'world tree.

Anyways, it is interesting that the tree at Seahenge has the roots as a possible altar. Sacrifice on an inverted tree? Does it not conjure up the symbolism I'm referring to?

Here's one of those speculating websites...but it does have a pic of the Seahenge tree itself



I think they speculate correctly.

One thing I do know for certain...the traditions carried by the human race during the migrations throughout time, from the Late Neolithic to the present, survive world-wide. The inverted tree as a symbol is one of those.

Yggdrasil forever.

In England, there are lots of henges, so it's not that much of a surprise to learn that one was found underwater. There might even be others in areas where water has flooded the land. It's still a cool discovery, though, but I don't think it's going to really alter our understanding of history all that much. Maybe, though, there might be something surprising to find there...

I understand what you were saying Masqua i was just asking your reasoning
as it happens the roots of a tree do symbolize the underworld in Norse mythology

the fact that it also appears in the kabbalah and vedic mysticism is irrelevant however because of the time line because the sea henge site predates both by quite some margin.

further to that it is not actually a henge, that name was coined by the general public after the newspaper the independant posted a picture of it with the headline "Stonehenge on sea"
here you can also see that its not maybe quite as large as you have been led to believe
image source: http://www.stedmundsbury.gov.uk/sebc/visit/images/Seahenge.jpg

it was originally a wooden enclosure completely walled off except for an entrance to the northeast which aligned it with the midsummer sunrise.
something which it has in common with a lot of other early bronze age sites
this points more to it being constructed for funeral purposes although archaeologists believe it was not designed for a burial itself

if anything this points to a similar tradition of other british tribes of this time which used to leave the corpses of the dead on frames of wood above the ground so that the birds and other small animals could pick the bones clean of flesh
the defleshed bones would then be either cremated and buried in urns or just buried whole
image source: http://www.osel.cz/_img/img1093921394.jpg

you can easily imagine can't you in the landscape that this site was built which at that time was subject to seasonal flooding how a coastal community would use this same method but utilise the fish as the bone cleaners and get the job done in half the time.

early bronze age co op funeral parlour basically
the fact that the central oak was dragged to the spot with ropes made from honeysuckle indicate that whatever the purpose it was one that was an act of love by the people who constructed it
this is borne out by the fact that it isn't the only structure of its kind in this area
there is another built like it further to the east which is approximately 400 yars older and this fits with the theory that the sea at that time was encroaching further and further inland making the construction of this site neccesary as the older one was now fully submerged. the archaeological trust actually categorizes this site as Holme 2 and the other one as holme 1 naming them after the district (Holme) in which they both stand

the upturned roots in this case although as you speculated possibly indicating the underworld served a far more practical purpose.......
they stopped the body from washing away with the tide

that would be something wouldnt it
you go to all the trouble of preparing an automated bone cleaning structure only to find Grandma got a burial at sea instead
hehe









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More speculation on my part;

First of all, I would disagree with the notion that since Seahenge predates the Kabbalah and Vedic mysticism by millenia, that it is irrelevant.

As I said before, the oral transmission of ritual tradition survive tens of millenia as is shown by global similarities regarding the 'World Tree'. I don't dismiss for a second that Vedic mysticism, the Kabbalah, Nordic myths, Natve American traditions and Tibetan shamanism all stem from the same roots. An early pan-human religion.

There are hints of this in such symbols as the circle, the cross, the circle containing a cross, the spiral, the labyrinth and so on. These symbols can be seen painted 40.000 years ago on cave walls in France and petraglyphs in North America, but their meanings are usually quite similar.

Symbols are a language all on their own and able to cross all cultural differences and time.

I tried looking, but would like to find out the actual dimensions of the outer circle at the unfortunately mis-named Seahenge. Could the diameter be 26 feet?



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the actual maximum diameter is 6.78 metres
thats 22 and 1/4 feet


there is no physical connection between the people who built this site an any other mythology or symbolism from eurasia before 9000bce
7000 years is a long time to hold onto this idea when there is no other recorded instance of it in the uk at all

I agree that there is a racial connection and more than likely a religious one as well
but in this case speculation is the only available evidence

Naarfolk gets onto ATS

yes they also made the news recently on www.geneology.com
apparently they currently have a deal where they will trace your ancestry back to the norman invasion for £100
unless you're from Naarfolk in which case they'll do it for a fiver

Kids were playing sand castle and became rock after thousand years before the land collapsed to sea level. - from reliable scientific source.

It looks more like a sun dial? And for astronomy alignment, a kind of stargate - from pseudoscience.

It is for direction, the big rock in the middle is pointing to Ka'bah. - The truth!




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My question is is seahenge like stonehenge where people and tv shows like jackie chan adventures a cartoon series have different theories about stonehenge. The two theories I saw in the show were either that stonehenge and magic powers or that aliens have something to do with the building or the upkeep of stonehenge. So does seahenge follow these theories?

No, no no

Anyway Jackie Chan is a joker.
No Aliens has anything to do with anything on earth.
If you don't get what I said, please consult the expert "MARDUK", he is the expert on everything, he spent all his life to study these STUFF just to prove it has nothing to do with aliens.
He is the expert, and there is good news for you ( only for you ), he is British!

Just to prove you he is legitable and to prove you he is credible, he has spent years on college to study Egyptian pyramids, and he has proven pyramids is nothing but no mystic and no aliens thingies. Pyramids were just plain human humble made.

Do you ask, why a British spent years in college to learn pyramid is Bul*SHI..*TT?
Simple, it is because he is British as British always do.

Wow, I love your work, it's great!