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Originally posted by ConstantlyWondering
Are you ok? I am an adult and I work for a living. Your reply has been posted. If it takes me more than two hours to respond will you please occupy yourself with maybe a video game or soccer? Maybe some unfinished school work? You are making a reasonable discussion impossible with your lame insults. I only say this for your benefit. The rules are clear in this forum and you need to cool it with the insults and answer with sound debate. We at ATS deserve better than what you have offerred so far.
So doesn't that make you wonder where the concept of god first came from? Going back the generations, where did the idea first come from?
Originally posted by riley
My theory is that 'god' is like an evlutionary carrot that keeps us wanting to discover and learn more and more. It will eventually lead us to settling on other planets etc. and our concept of 'god' will change along with it.
Originally posted by jbondo
The Christian concept has not changed since it's inception. What makes you think it will be any different in the future?
Originally posted by jbondo
The Christian concept has not changed since it's inception.
What makes you think it will be any different in the future?
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Are you sure? Was there not a time when God was a big, white, bearded guy in the sky remeniscant of Zeus? Then Jesus was also portrayed as a white dude for a long time, until it became politacally incorrect, then revisited, and now he looks like this
I also saw that TLC or Descovery show on what Jesus may have looked like. What does that have to do with anything? I know He was a Jew and logic always told me that He looked as a historic Jew of the region would look.
Show me Bibe text that says God is a big, white, bearded guy in the sky. I get my information from the Bible. I also don't claim to know everything. I have to study all the time and am always learning new things.
Originally posted by riley
Originally posted by jbondo
The Christian concept has not changed since it's inception.
The old testimant has changed drastically.. and christianity ommited 'Lilith' from the creation story. There's no denying thats quite an edit. People now know that the earth is not the centre of the universe and that it was not created in 7 days. How can you say it has not changed..?
What makes you think it will be any different in the future?
As knowledge increases.. beliefs have to be re-evaluated when they conflict with reality. For example.. I have no doubt that intelligent alien life forms exist, and when this is proved certain religions will have to alter their beliefs from being god's primary creation to being one of many.
[edit on 30-11-2006 by riley]
Originally posted by Spreadthetruth
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
and, i do NOT believe in satan, i actually believe in nothing supernatural
i attribute creation to an event that is dubbed the big bang
i believe that human being could in theory create a universe such as ours, however, in practice you'd need more energy than we have contained in our own so it wouldn't work. ALSO, we don't have the technology...
but in THEORY
What do you consider 'Supernatural'?
Anything that hasn't been excepted 100% by modern science?
Other dimensions?
Life outside our solar system?
If scientists manage to create a miniture uninverse in a lab, wouldn't that then give credibility to the idea of God? Gods? Creators?
Science is constantly changing. Get ready to accept new possibilities.
Originally posted by ConstantlyWondering
Are you ok? I am an adult and I work for a living. Your reply has been posted. If it takes me more than two hours to respond will you please occupy yourself with maybe a video game or soccer? Maybe some unfinished school work? You are making a reasonable discussion impossible with your lame insults. I only say this for your benefit. The rules are clear in this forum and you need to cool it with the insults and answer with sound debate. We at ATS deserve better than what you have offerred so far.
Originally posted by ConstantlyWondering
The void you have that causes you to seek audience with Christians like me and other posters. You are seeking spiritual answers from spiritual sources. You are submitting to God whether you realize it or not. You have been seeking God in this forum. Your void will be filled if you continue to seek God.
So who decides what interpretation and translation is the correct one???? You???? So if gods days are millions of ours then Adam et al. lived a really long long time or does a 'god year' mean a week or something else?
Originally posted by jbondo
Also, you can't take everything in the Bible to mean exactly what it says. You have to allow for interpretation and translation of meaning. 7 of God's days could be 7 million of ours. The concept of time as it applies to the Bible is still up for debate. Furthermore, the Bible is not a scientific textbook it is a guide for life.
Finally, where does it say that God could not have created other life forms in the universe?
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
loose interpretation does not equal confirmed fact.
Originally posted by shihulud
Originally posted by roger_pearse
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
16 Common Myths About Atheists
1. Atheists hate Christians and Christianity. ... But I dont dislike someone just because of their religion.
My experience is otherwise.
"Dimwitted Dumb# in Lake Evil has been joined by another fundamentalist troll called Roger Pearse Grillfile/BozoBin/Set Phasers to "Ignore" for both these unwanted, uninvited, unwelcome, unneeded, undesirable, unacceptable Fundy
#wits..K"
That by an atheist, gratuitously, in response to a non-religious post by me to controvert various factually inaccurate statements about Mithras.
Maybe we just get pissed off with christians trying to shove their religious crap down our necks...
3. Atheists have no sense of morality, since morality comes from God. Ah, the old without fear of hell, there would be nothing to stop people from being bloodthirsty monsters argument.
Reflected accurately in usenet by the filthy abuse routinely used by atheists.
I have to disagree, I've found quite a few religious poster's ...
4. Atheists are a unified group, like a church. Are we? I must have missed the memo, then. If anything, Id say atheists are more diverse than Christians, because were less sheep-like, and dont accept things on faith, or from authority.
Atheists are terribly monochrome -- they all live by societal values, none of them can discuss these, and they all change the subject when the issue is raised. They are desperately credulous and will believe anything, so long as it is discreditable to Christians.
What??????? And christians arent ... Most of your religion is based on desperately credulous and highly suspect evidence. Typical hypocrite.
5. Atheists actually know, deep inside, that theres a God, as thats perfectly obvious; they are simply too proud and arrogant to admit the existence of something greater than themselves. Not exactly. You see, the existence of a god is only obvious if youve been brainwashed
Atheists are quite able to ignore reality. Only an atheist would presume that 90% of the world's population were "brainwashed".
Some are brainwashed but most dont really care ...So yes 'Brainwashed' would be quite an accurate word.
So, 5 out of 6 show relatively little self-knowledge. It's not good, is it?
Just as you've shown little knowledge in your attack strategy... (personal abuse snipped)
Originally posted by roger_pearse
I said that atheists were incapable of discussing their religion and were abusive and kept changing the subject. Your post validated every word.
There is no system of belief around which atheism is based. It is a collection of people who profess a disbelief in one thing, deities, that is all. No church meeting, no singing in groups, no text on which the disbelief is based.
Originally posted by jbondo
American Atheists
Council for Secular Humanism
Atheist Alliance
American Humanist Association
Freedom From Religion Foundation
Religious Freedom Network
Etc...
Etc...
Etc...