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Originally posted by MasterJedi
I'm just saying that you cannot reason with religious fanatisism... Their entire religion says that in the end, they will all dfie in a war against the infidels... Tell me what argument we, as the white invading infidels, could put forth that would change their minds.
I'm not trying to convince them to use peaceful means because it just postpones the inevitable(that they will die in holy war against us). So I reiterate that preemptive strike may be the only way to nip the problem in the bud...
In the Qur'an, the principle of fighting is purely self-defensive. According to all available Traditions, the earliest verses revealed with regards to fighting are these:
"Permission [to fight] is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged and, verily, God has indeed the power to succour them; those who have been driven from their homelands against all right for no other reason than their saying, 'Our sustainer is God!'" (22:39-40).
Along with this verse is 2:190, which says:
"And fight in God's cause against those who wage war against you..."
Thus, it is quite clear that fighting is to be done in self-defense. Now, anyone can commit acts of terror and aggression and say, "it's in self-defense." In fact, that is precisely what Al Qaeda is doing: they claim by killing 3,000 people in New York City and Washington, D.C., they are "defending" the Muslim nation against "Zionist and Crusader" aggression against the Muslims. What sheer rubbish.
The Qur'an clearly states, in the remainder of 2:190 it says:
"...but do not commit aggression, for verily, God does not love aggressors."
"Committing aggression" includes killing innocent civilians in Tel Aviv, Beslan, New York, Baghdad, or wherever. Furthermore, when the enemy ceases its hostility, fighting must cease:
"...but if they desist, then all hostility shall cease, save against those who [willfully] do wrong" (2:193).
Another verse repeats this insistence that hostility must cease when the enemy stops its aggression against you:
"But if they [the enemy] incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! And should they seek but to deceive thee [by their show of peace] - behold, God is enough for thee! He it is who has strengthened thee with His succour, and by giving thee believing followers" (8:61-62).
Originally posted by MasterJedi
Also I didn't say if they don't conform kill them... I said that these should be removed because of obvious reasons.
Originally posted by BitRaiser
Brilliant... just friggen brilliant.
Saddam is about to become a martyr.
Ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been sentenced to death by hanging after being found guilty of crimes against humanity in ordering the deaths of 148 Shiite villagers.
SADDAM Sentenced to Death by Hanging!
Originally posted by ferretman2
Never again will people be put in plastic shredders
Never again will people be buried alive
Never again will the infamous rape rooms be used
Iraq was a democracy before Saddam....not during his rein.......now Iraq has the chance to be a democracy once again.
Originally posted by SteveR
And he was not charged on these allegations why?
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
because he was charged with specimen offences - this is a very common prosecution tactic where a defendant faces multiple charges of a similar maginitude
Originally posted by Souljah
US helped as Saddam plotted chemical attacks, report says
Rumsfeld 'offered help to Saddam'
Saddam Could Call CIA in His Defence
Saddam Silenced For Fingering US In Iraq Bombings
Israeli and US foreign policy documents
How the CIA found and groomed Saddam
So - will we ever see those Masters of Puppets on Trial?
Will we ever see them in the Court?
Why was Saddam judged in Baghdad and NOT in International Criminal Court in Hague - like Slobodan Milosevic was?
Is it a FAIR Trial?
Well if it is a Fair Trial - how come THREE of his Lawyers were Assassianted - and nobody has a problem with that?
And during the Trial his original judge was REPLACED?
Fair Trial ey?
If you belive in Santa!
Originally posted by Seekerof
Islamic Law stipulates an "eye for an eye," and he is getting/receiving due justice, the ole' Islamic Law way.
To the consternation of Islamic conservatives, his government gave women added freedoms and offered them high-level government and industry jobs. Saddam also created a Western-style legal system, making Iraq the only country in the Persian Gulf region not ruled according to traditional Islamic law (Sharia). Saddam abolished the Sharia law courts, except for personal injury claims"