Originally posted by Seekerof
Irrelevant
You Sound like a Broken Dalek!
IRRELEVANT!
IRRELEVANT!
IRRELEVANT!
IRRELEVANT!
Seriously - do they teach you this fantastic IRRELEVANT tactics in the USAir Force? Or at the local NeoCon meeting? So what exactly did piss you off?
The FACTS I presented - which are for you ofcourse IRRELEVANT, even if Saddam WAS a CIA Agent, and without help of the CIA there never would be an
Iraq with Saddam in charge? Or is it the FACT, that American technology and Chemical Agents killed those Kurds, and nobody had a problem with that few
decades ago? Wait, wait, let me quote this - I guarantee you shall LOVE IT;
Saddam Could Call CIA in His Defense
A report prepared by the top CIA official handling the matter says Saddam Hussein was not responsible for the massacre, and indicates that it
was the work of Iranians. Further, the Scott inquiry on the role of the British government has gathered evidence that following the massacre the
United States in fact armed Saddam Hussein to counter the Iranians chemicals for chemicals.
Few believe that a CIA man would attend a court hearing in Baghdad in defense of Saddam. But in this case the CIA boss has gone public with his
evidence, and this evidence has been in the public domain for more than a year.
So did you read that correctly? I belive it says, that Saddam was NOT responsible for the massacre, and infact it was yet another FalseFlag operation
- probably designed by the CIA, offered to Saddam and he ofcourse went with the plan, since you can not say NO to your Mafia's Bosses, right? After
all, they put you to power, they gave you the money and the weapons - they can ofcourse take all that away in a jiffy.
Why should he you apologetic terrorist sympathizer?
See above: No one made Saddam pull the 'trigger', no matter who gave him the 'gun'.
Hey wait a minute - I never said Saddam was as innocent as a lamb, but he is nearly not to be held guilty alone. But, he could not have gassed the
Kurds, if he did not have the chemical weapons, and the technology (chemical canisters, mounted onto helicopters), which were sold to him mostly by
the West and Russia. Let's Rewind;
The Saddam in Rummy's Closet
Five years before Saddam Hussein's now infamous 1988 gassing of the Kurds, a key meeting took place in Baghdad that would play a significant role
in forging close ties between Saddam Hussein and Washington. It happened at a time when Saddam was first alleged to have used chemical weapons. The
meeting in late December 1983 paved the way for an official restoration of relations between Iraq and the US, which had been severed since the 1967
Arab-Israeli war.
Rumsfeld's December 19-20, 1983 visit to Baghdad made him the highest-ranking US official to visit Iraq in 6 years. He met Saddam and the two
discussed "topics of mutual interest," according to the Iraqi Foreign Ministry. "[Saddam] made it clear that Iraq was not interested in making
mischief in the world," Rumsfeld later told The New York Times. "It struck us as useful to have a relationship, given that we were interested in
solving the Mideast problems."
In March of 1984, with the Iran-Iraq war growing more brutal by the day, Rumsfeld was back in Baghdad for meetings with then-Iraqi Foreign Minister
Tariq Aziz. On the day of his visit, March 24th, UPI reported from the United Nations: "Mustard gas laced with a nerve agent has been used on Iranian
soldiers in the 43-month Persian Gulf War between Iran and Iraq, a team of U.N. experts has concluded... Meanwhile, in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad,
U.S. presidential envoy Donald Rumsfeld held talks with Foreign Minister Tarek Aziz (sic) on the Gulf war before leaving for an unspecified
destination."
Wait - did I read that correctly?
Well it gets more Interesting;
Throughout the period that Rumsfeld was Reagan's Middle East envoy, Iraq was frantically purchasing hardware from American firms, empowered by
the White House to sell.The buying frenzy began immediately after Iraq was removed from the list of alleged sponsors of terrorism in 1982. According
to a February 13, 1991 Los Angeles Times article:
"First on Hussein's shopping list was helicopters -- he bought 60 Hughes helicopters and trainers with little notice. However, a second order of
10 twin-engine Bell "Huey" helicopters, like those used to carry combat troops in Vietnam, prompted congressional opposition in August, 1983...
Nonetheless, the sale was approved."
In 1988, Saddam's forces attacked Kurdish civilians with poisonous gas from Iraqi helicopters and planes. U.S. intelligence sources told The LA Times
in 1991, they "believe that the American-built helicopters were among those dropping the deadly bombs."
Sooooooo, you want to know what the People of Halabja say?
Halabja wants Saddam’s chemical suppliers to pay
Well that would mean the US Goverment.
And ofcourse it is IRRELEVANT for you, that the
United States Armed Saddam
ILLEGALLY!
Your a broken record. Re-read your own question quoted above.
I'm a Broken Record?
Coming from a Dalek-Sounding dude, who said IRRELEVANT several times!
Saddam was judged in Baghdad because the intern Iraqi government at the time stipulated that Saddam be tried by Western-styled law and not the
International "The Hague takes forever to determine a sentence to the point that the one being tried will die in prison before recieving any type
determination like Milosevic" Law.
In other words - the US wanted to have a Trial in the Occupied Baghdad, where the current US Puppet Goverment CAN be influenced and the Trial can be
manipulated; which would very unlikely happen in Hague, since Netherlands Netherlands are not a puppet state of United States, neither is their
goverment.
Furthermore, he recieved the very same "fair" trial he bestowed/gave to those thousands upon thousands that his own state courts gave to his own
people...before they were carried off and maimed, butchered, raped, murdered, and killed. Was that "FAIR," you Saddam apologist?
Imagine if he was tried under Islamic Law.
How much more would you be wailing and gnashing your teeth, Souljah?
Hey wait - I Belive that all the butcherng, raping, murdering and killing is still going on in Baghdad! Hey even the US Forces do it - remember Abu
Gharib? Or perhaps does
Camp Buca ring a bell, where ther are 17,000 prisoners held,
most of them innocent, and nobody knows what is going on in there. And let's set the record straight - I am not a Saddam apologist, and if you would
have read my posts, I already said that the man was a PIG, and he should get what he deserved. And YES, it would be a whole lot better that he woud be
trialed according to Islamic Law too. But nevertheless, what about the people who armed him? The people who gave him the money, the power? If you put
a ruthless dictator in charge of a country - and US has done that many, MANY times - then you are also responsible for his actions he does, since it
is YOU who have created him, he did not arise from ashes, out of nowhere. And back in the days, US needed Saddam to fight against Iran and their
Islamic Revolution.
In fact, Saddam is no better or worse than any number of dictators past or present. General Augusto Pinochet, Ferdinand Marcos, General Suharto,
Anastasio Somoza, Pol Pot - these are a few of the bloody dictators responsible for the death of literally millions of people (Pol Pot was responsible
for the slaughter of 1.5 million people, Suharto 500,000 or more). These are dictators the United States either supported directly or indirectly over
the years.
You want more countries and dictators listed - or the
CIA Greatest Hits,
put in to power, and were responsible for Millions of Deaths - but still, none of the US goverments, intelligence agencies was never, EVER in an
international court of law.
But yes ofcourse - let's just say that all is IRRELEVANT, and that we all are Happy and Glad that Sadda is in court (if we can call that court!), and
that he is removed from his ruthless dictatorship, because he Attacked America on 9-11, he had Weapons of Mass Destruction and was closly connected to
Al-Qaeda!
For the Post you written, you get my Way Above Neocon Award!

[edit on 8/11/06 by Souljah]