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Originally posted by Dravenn
Bam... I just thought about something... and this makes a hell of a lot of sense now.. Don't know why I have not thought about this. You know why they Bin laden is signing his death wish...... he is dead and they are creating this illusion of himself being the next attacker so that this one can be a big attack and then they will move on to the next terriorist Organization... When was the last time you have seen much on Osama... not too much recently.. America is tired of him. So what to do, what to do.. It is like a movie. When the audience gets tired of one character, they kill him and replace him with another.. Bin laden is not going to attack the US, but the US sure as hell going to attack ourself and blame him... No body will question it.. I mean we have not seen any videos from him in a long time, but we sure as hell have heard tapes, which could be anyone.. remember, the US is the ones saying where it is his voice or not... It is all like the songs we use to sing when we were younger and we saw Johny and kim kissing... First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes Osama blowing the whole #ing country up... I will tell you this, if the US was doing the whole "homeland Security" blaa blaa, I have not see anything done around here.. I live 20 mins from the largest Fuel Depot on the East coast... All they have protecting it is a thin fence... and it is only 10 feet off Hwy 40 which is the nations most traveled highway...
Originally posted by Leveller
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
You also seem to forget these are AMERICANS you are talking about. You must know too, that there was NOT another possible selling point in invading Iraq. This is not britian. Unless Americans are convinced that it is a direct threat to thier safety, that they are being attacked, they will not send people overseas.
Exactly. America.
You kinda invalidate your own point by mentioning those other countries.
The US has never shirked from taking military action away from home. It's armed forces have been more active in foreign countries than any other nations.
The US admins always managed to sell their wars before. You reckon one more would have made such a big difference?
And although I disagree with your analysis of the Saudi military, what makes you think Iraqi forces were any better? In fact, from the way they the US just walked straight into Baghdad I woulda said that the Saudis were on pretty safe ground.
SirSyco - You're as boring as ECK.
Originally posted by Dravenn
ECK and Skadi, you 2 are my best friends now...lol.. but seriously, this is what I have been talking about and Skadi, you hit the nail on the head.. perfect.. ECK awesome points and halarious post about leveller also... Gotta say, i love ATS... Home away from home... Or should i say home away from reality =)
[Edited on 24-11-2003 by Dravenn]
Originally posted by SABOTWULF
we all know al-qaida aren't the only ones causing trouble out there.
Originally posted by Jakomo
ECK: I think that's giving them a little too much credit
But having him as a SINGLE focus was good for a while, until Iraq came along. For many months, the Administration didn't even MENTION Bin Laden.
He's a great bogeyman to have.
And, though it's a guess, I find it hilarious to ponder that the CIA makes a fake tape, then it's sent to THEM to be corroborated as bin Laden's voice.
I believe there IS an Al Qaeda, but it's a ragtag bunch of retards running around in Afghanistan shooting their guns in the air. The rest is fear-mongering propaganda.
jakomo