Who Says it Was Al Qaida?

Originally posted by Leveller
It's nothing new.
Prior to 9/11 the UK was always at least on Black Alpha alert and probably has been at a high level of alert since then.

We had the IRA bombing our cities for 30 years.

Try taking a look at their tactics of bombing innocent civilians and you'll see that your theory that Al Qaeda wouldn't bomb us doesn't hold water.

[Edited on 24-11-2003 by Leveller]

That's your uninformed opinion, Leveller. But thanks for sharing.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
That's your uninformed opinion, Leveller. But thanks for sharing.

"Uninformed"?
Arrogant American. Live with terrorism all of your life and then come back and tell me what "uninformed" is.
Some of you people consider yourself to be experts on international terrorism just because of 9/11. You forget through your ignorance that there are other nations who have been dealing with it for decades.

Yes, Leveller, you are far wiser than the rest of us.. so much experience.. By the way, aren't you late for school?
Here is an excellent example of how it works.

OCTOBER/NOVEMBER 1999, pages 22-23

Special Report

The Israeli Deception That Led to the Bombing of Pan American Flight 103 Over Lockerbie, Scotland

By Richard H. Curtiss

With the handover to the United Nations this spring for trial in The Hague of two Libyan suspects in the bombing of Pan American Flight 103 over Lockerbie Scotland on Dec. 21, 1988, United Nations sanctions upon Libya were �suspended,� but not lifted. This ended the principal hardships imposed since 1992 upon the Libyan people, which were the ban on international air travel to and from Libya, and the resulting high prices and scarcity of foreign-made goods and equipment, which had to be imported via Libya�s neighbors.

U.S. sanctions against Americans doing business with Libya or even travel by Americans to Libya remain in place, but obviously will be re-examined at some point. The original object of the U.S. sanctions was to force Libya to turn over the suspects and, if they are found guilty, to force Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi to accept responsibility for the crash of the Boeing 747 in which all 259 passengers, of whom 189 were Americans, and 11 people on the ground were killed. However, Qaddafi already has distanced himself from the suspects by saying, in a BBC interview in October 1998, that the bombing might have resulted from Libyans �taking their own revenge� for the U.S. bombing of Tripoli two years earlier.
www.washington-report.org...

I should be at school?

Dip#. In case you didn't notice there were 150 thousand people at that march. That leaves 55.985 million who didn't march.
Yeah. I'm sure that will stand in the UK's favour. Al Qaeda would never bomb it's supporters would they? Maybe they bomb Muslims by accident too. Oh wait. They don't exist. The Tooth Fairy does though doesn't she?

#. Your argument is totally crap and childish.
If anyone needs to go to school - it's you.
When you get there, I suggest you go sit in the corner with and wear a large pointy hat with a "D" written on it.

It's a great racket. You covertly bomb western targets, plant evidence, set the patsy up in the media - where they're tried and convicted before it ever gets to court - and then you come riding in on your white horse to save the day. All the while you have the good citizens scared shytless and ready for you to protect them from the EEEVIL terrorists..
Don't get me wrong, I know that there are real terrorists, but historically they keep it pretty close to home and they like to come out and claim the work of their hands, so as to promote their agenda.
What we're seeing today is fake terror, in large part, to promote a global agenda of domination. It operates just like mob tactics. Ruff the folks up, demand protection pay-offs and then they "protiect." In order to understand the "terrorists," you have to think like them. Here are a few more articles concerning the Lybia setup and commentary on today's "terror."

CIA Linked to �86 Bombing

BERLIN TV TIES CIA, MOSSAD TO BERLIN TERROR ATTACK

German public television has made a compelling case that the CIA and Mossad were involved in the bombing of a disco in Berlin in 1986 to provide a rationale for attacking Libya.

Exclusive to American Free Press

By Fred Lingel

Fifteen years after the terrorist bombing of a disco in Berlin, a German court has found four individuals guilty of the attack which killed two American servicemen and a Turkish woman.

But a documentary on German public television aired in 1998 disputes the case brought by German authorities against the group, presenting chilling evidence that the main suspects in the 1986 La Belle disco bombing worked for American and Israeli intelligence.
The rest:

www.americanfreepress.net...[/ur l]


Global Terror Attacks Bear Hallmarks of US Black Ops

By Hazel

One by one, the world�s terror attacks bear more of the hallmarks of US Intelligence, �Black Ops,� than of Islamic terrorism. The signs are unmistakable, the CIA backed industrio-religious crusaders are staging terror campaigns throughout the world - absolutely - positively.

The despicable US media giants were silent when undisputed proof surfaced that the CIA, NSA, British Intelligence, the US Secret Service and the FBI were all involved in the May 16th 2002 blast in a Philippine hotel room when their agent, Michael Meiring accidently blew his own legs off while constructing a bomb which was intended, if ignited as planned, to be a staged �Al Queda� terror attack, justifying a tightened US- Philippine military alliance.

Meiring who operated under the cover of being a treasure hunter was in fact a CIA operative under the direct protection of the White House (As evidenced by his swift NSA/FBI medivac to San Diego after blowing his own legs off). The US spook spent 10 years on assignment associating with Islamic groups, Abu Sayef, MNLF, Moro Islamic Liberation Front, and other Philippine based Islamic groups, supplying them with US counterfeit notes (Courtesy of US intelligence) and bomb making materials so that they may create terrorist mayhem within the Philippines, giving the US a pretext to move in and, �help,� just like in Indonesia - just like nearly everywhere else these Mafia-like thugs can plant their terror and, �protection,� racket.

Meiring called his front company, Paruosia International Trading Incorporated Paruosia, in Christian fundamentalist lingo, means �Second coming of Christ.� - These intelligence asset/crusader types can�t resist revealing clues to their delusions of righteous grandeur.
the rest:
[url=http://www.propagandamatrix.com/241103blackops.html]http://www.propagandamatrix.com/241103blackops.html

I wonder sometimes if some of these "Al Qaeda" attacks are CIA ones, designed to drum up support for the War on Terror.

The CIA, NSA, British Intelligence, the US Secret Service and the FBI were all involved in the May 16th 2002 blast in a Philippine hotel. Their agent, Michael Meiring, accidently blew his own legs off while making a bomb which was intended, if it had gone as planned, to be a staged �Al Queda� terror attack

After the explosion, Meiring was hustled aboard an NSA/FBI medivac that flew to San Diego after blowing his own legs off. Meiring spent 10 years on assignment associating with Abu Sayef, MNLF, Moro Islamic Liberation Front, and other Philippine based Islamic groups, supplying them with bomb making materials so that they may create terrorist mayhem within the Philippines, giving the US a pretext to move in and "help out".

Meiring's front company was Paruosia International Trading Incorporated. Look it up, it's all on the Net, and CNN, Fox and NBC reported NOTHING. Did you hear any of this on your news? Google it if you have the guts

www.mindanews.com...

www.bulatlat.com...

www.yonip.com...

www.wwviews.com...


jakomo

Fight Ignorance

All you are doing now is pasting bull# liberal text to save your skanky ass in an argument that you can't win.

How about I give you some actual proof that doesn't even need a link?

Your theory that the UK would not come under attack because we had a march against Bush is totally and utterly flawed.
On the same day that march took place, British interests in Turkey were bombed. Now I know that in your #ed up little world you would like to blame the CIA, MI6 or Mossad, but unfortunately things don't happen that way.
America and Israel need all the friends they can get right now. To bomb UK interests would kill any relationship between them and turn the whole of Europe against them too. A risk over a bank and a consulate in a foreign country that just isn't worth taking. And before you start puffing and huffing, we Brits aren't as low as you might be - we don't murder our own Consulate Generals and blow up our own banks.
So let's look at it without the left wing bull# blinkers shall we?

A march takes place in London against Bush and there is STILL a bombing against British interests in Turkey on the same day.

The logic that Al Qaeda would not hit the UK because of one march against Bush is a pipe dream. A fairy tale. Bull# and bollocks.

You seem to spend a lot of time trying to uncover dirty work undertaken by your own government but you have no idea how terrorist organisations work. I suggest you go read up about groups and their histories and tactics.Islamic Jihad, Bahder Mienhoff, PLO, IRA, ETA, Hezbollah, Kahane Chai, KWP, Jemaah Islamyiah, Tamil Tigers, Shining Path etc before you bother posting again.

You'll find that these groups DO exist and that they HAVE killed people.

I am just joining this topic but there is a couple of things I want to say. I agree with everyone in here, with the exception of Leveller who tends to know everything about the US... Anyways, I believe the US has future plans in mind for these attacks and is the begining or should I say the migration to the NWO where the US will and already has begun to become the world police. Leveller, you want to say you know what is going on, but can you without using any resources tell me what the capital of Maine is, or North Carolina, or just about any state... Sorry don't think you can. No body here is claming to know the country that you live in either, and honestly could care less, but we do know what is going on in Our country. It is the small minds such as your, and the fear of knowing the truth that feeds our Governments to feed stories such as this as for most people have the same process power as you seem to share. OK.... You live in terrorism every day... and where do you live by the way.. Hopefully you can answer that question right since you have not been able to answer anything else on this board with any reasonable amount of proof or credit. N.K serves as much more of a threat than Iraq ever did, but do you see us bombing them yet.. Nope.. sorry sure don't.. and 2 reasons why. First, they have nothing to offer us. No oil, gold.... nothing... Second, we don't want to fight a war that will cause massive deaths to our US military. We have learned from experience that because they know the lay of their land and know how to ambush, that we will encounter a massive resistance if we invade, with the threat of a Nuclear resistance also. We would defeat them yes, but we would take heavy tolls to the lifes of the US and we are not open for that. Trust me, you think you know and who can blame you.. You watch TV and the news, but you only know what they want you to... We are in a Matrix ourself where we are in Zion and you are in the Matrix, you think you know, but you only know what they have programmed you to know..... So ask yourself... how deep is the rabbit hole...

OH and by the way Leveller, you say that bombing the UK would only hurt the US/UK relationship... Try this one on for size... Just the day before the bombings that occurred that killed the Ranking UK person, the UK went against the US in a security councel meeting on the issue of Iran having Nuclear capabilities... Instead of backing the US in the proposal that they have set forward, they decided to back France and Russia in theirs... So you tell me, who hurt this relationship. This is the first time the UK has gone against a resolution that the US has presented.

Originally posted by Leveller
I should be at school?

Dip#. In case you didn't notice there were 150 thousand people at that march. That leaves 55.985 million who didn't march.
Yeah. I'm sure that will stand in the UK's favour. Al Qaeda would never bomb it's supporters would they? Maybe they bomb Muslims by accident too. Oh wait. They don't exist. The Tooth Fairy does though doesn't she?

#. Your argument is totally crap and childish.
If anyone needs to go to school - it's you.
When you get there, I suggest you go sit in the corner with and wear a large pointy hat with a "D" written on it.

Well Leveller, you have quite a dirty little mouth, which of course, proves you're incapable of offering any kind of argument, let alone one that would win you any converts. Keep it up, though. I do so enjoy your ridiculous posts. You might want to try offering some kind of basis for your weak argument. Like information. You do know what information is, don't you? Now hurry off to school - unless of course, you're laying out today to talk with the grown-ups.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
You do know what information is, don't you?

Yes.
From dictionary.com

in�for�ma�tion P Pronunciation Key (nfr-mshn)
n.
1) Knowledge derived from study, experience, or instruction.
2) Knowledge of specific events or situations that has been gathered or received by communication; intelligence or news. See Synonyms at knowledge.
3) A collection of facts or data: statistical information.
The act of informing or the condition of being informed; communication of knowledge: Safety instructions are provided for the information of our passengers.
4) Something that ECK totally ignores in his quest to prove bull# to be reality.

That makes sense.. I know why he is upset.... I bet he has a slight fever and mommy let him stay out of school today... But his mommy said, if you are too sick to stay home, you are too sick to go out with your friends later.. So now he is trying to make new friends online so he can hang with us later on... Either that or suzie just called him this morning and told him that she is no longer going to the junior prom with him, she is going with the Mark who has one arm and a limp... I know, it is ok man.. just remember, some girls like different things, I promise it is not you and your wonderful wealth of knowledge....LOL

Originally posted by Dravenn
OH and by the way Leveller, you say that bombing the UK would only hurt the US/UK relationship... Try this one on for size... Just the day before the bombings that occurred that killed the Ranking UK person, the UK went against the US in a security councel meeting on the issue of Iran having Nuclear capabilities... Instead of backing the US in the proposal that they have set forward, they decided to back France and Russia in theirs... So you tell me, who hurt this relationship. This is the first time the UK has gone against a resolution that the US has presented.

Thanks for that tidbit Dravenn. Makes things all the clearer, doesn't it? I had missed that the UK voted against the US. So who stands to gain bombing the UK? Those of us who are not programmed to swallow the media/gov. propaganda cum might just come to the conclusion that the US might be trying to intimidate or get back at the UK through an "Al Qaida" attack?... Al Qaida has no reason to bomb targets in Britain when Britans have so strenuously opposed Bush's presence and foreign policy. Let's face it folks, the war in Iraq is a fukken disaster, the US occupation of Afghanistan is falling apart and the Bush administration desperately needs every one of us to be terrified and begging for protection. Oh yeah - I have a message from Osama: BOO!

Originally posted by Leveller

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
You do know what information is, don't you?

Yes.
From dictionary.com

in�for�ma�tion P Pronunciation Key (nfr-mshn)
n.
1) Knowledge derived from study, experience, or instruction.
2) Knowledge of specific events or situations that has been gathered or received by communication; intelligence or news. See Synonyms at knowledge.
3) A collection of facts or data: statistical information.
The act of informing or the condition of being informed; communication of knowledge: Safety instructions are provided for the information of our passengers.
4) Something that ECK totally ignores in his quest to prove bull# to be reality.

Hey ya'll - Leveller knows how to use a dictionary! I am so impressed!

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
So who stands to gain bombing the UK? Those of us who are not programmed to swallow the media/gov. propaganda cum might just come to the conclusion that the US might be trying to intimidate or get back at the UK through an "Al Qaida" attack?... Al Qaida has no reason to bomb targets in Britain when Britans have so strenuously opposed Bush's presence and foreign policy.

Yeah. Makes total sense now. I can see where you're coming from.
The US is going to bomb it's closest ally because of a proposal at the UN and Al Qaeda won't bomb the UK because we all love him.

If only all conspiracies were as clear cut as this one.




BULL#!!!!

When you argue with socialists and anarchists what do you expect? Logic? Hell No!

You will get logical and detailed arguments that are fact based and heavily BIASED!

The powers that be love you lemmings. You're so easy to fool. They know you need to be taken care of, all it takes is a little terror here and a little there. You both would do well for yourselves if you ripped yourselves off the teet of the mainstream news and started doing some independent research. Then you might start being capable of thinking for yourselves and forming your own conclusions. Everything you say is pretty much pre-fabricated rhetoric. But neither of you are competent enough to understand that.
ps.. Leveller, get your little dictionary back out and u2u NEO with the definition of RHETORIC. That knowledge might come in handy.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
The powers that be love you lemmings. You're so easy to fool. They know you need to be taken care of, all it takes is a little terror here and a little there.

Same old, same old.
Yet again we return to the arrogant "Only I have the truth" bull#.
Tell you something else dude, I don't live in fear so your argument is yet again totally flawed.

By the way, crappy analogy. Check up about lemmings. You'll find that the suicide theory is a total myth.
Of course, I'm sure you'll try and find a left wing bull# media site that claims otherwise.
Either that or they don't jump but the CIA pushes them over the cliff.

I don't think the US was trying to "get back" at the UK for signing against them.. I think they were trying to send a reality check to them saying, " You think you are safe, while you are actually under attack". I think the US would do this in order to place fear back into the UK that they are not out of the woods and that they cannot sit back like the rest of the world. It is no secret that the US doesn't like anyone to disagree with us and if you do, there is hell to pay.

Really I'm a lemming?

All you are is a guy with an ax to grind and looking under every rock for justification to keep grinding it.

The reality is not that simple that is why I don't fully agree with you. If GWB is not an angel and he isn't then what is the real issue?

All the people out there are even worse than him. Yes I hear you scoff but they are and you know it. The only difference is that he has enough power to back up what he (or his masters) decides to do.

That is why going into Iraq made sense, to keep that wacko Saddam from having the power to do what he wanted to do. He would make GWB look like an amateur if he had the chance.

Don't for a second ignore the point that the controllers do not want loose cannons running around or people that they cannot manage even at the high level.