Interesting topic, but filled with hate, bigotry, and ignorance, arent all Americans immigrants, except for the original Americans, the red Indians. Has not America's diversity of people made the country what it is, and is not this process still evolving. America's meddling in other countries affairs/times of war will always cause a reaction back home, there is nothing new in this, its just that people like Roper who are easily lead and believe the lies they are told. If he was around during ww2 I'm sure he would have had something to say about Nazi's in America.

even if we built a wall , they would still come in somehow. lets face it, we are a" all around nice society", compared to the second world nations. these people flock here just like our ancestors did back in the day from persecution and the works. NOW, we are becoming overcrowded, and our financial stability to take care of said peoples is becoming overwhelmed. EXAMPLE: lower paid workers get the job, an immigrant would be this person to take this job. more peoples of different societies come over here and different opinions and ethnic backgrounds collide. this will get worse. i have said this for awhile now," the melting pot theary", well the temperature is on high now, it is going to get hot, so tempers will flare and peoples are going to respond. THIS WAR THING COMMING FEBRUARY, does not help this situation at all either.

All recent presidents have supported globalization. They are part of the upper class and largely dependant on corporate money for their campaigns. The American people have been lied to about the advantages of globalization and agreements such as: NAFTA, CAFTA. If you've been wathcing closely we are now forming a north American union. Not one of these policies favors the majority of Americans or Mexicans and yet the government/corpratocracy continues. If globalization had worked the way they said it would Mexican laborers wouldn't have to come to America for work. Mexican laborers a paid about 1/10 the amount the Americans who held those jobs were paid. Who benefits from having illegal aliens come to work in America? It's not the small farmers for sure. Bush has been told to lay off the anti-immigrant rhetoric so the wealty can benefit from cheap labor, remember he said they were just doing jobs Americans would not do? But as long as we all attack and blame the poor for looking for better paying jobs the dismantling of the American middle class will continue. Are we just blaming the victim because we don't want to face the real culprit? In fact the American worker has a lot more in common with the Mexican workers than with our own government. Bush, Clinton Bush I, Reagan, Carter, Ford have any of them had your over to dinner lately? If we don't wake up soon it will be too late?

Originally posted by polanksi
Mexican laborers a paid about 1/10 the amount the Americans who held those jobs were paid. Who benefits from having illegal aliens come to work in America? It's not the small farmers for sure.

That statistic is a little more shocking than most that I've heard. It says that an immigrant below the poverty line is doing a job worth $100,000/year! Perhaps there is a nuance to it, a certain field or locale from which that was derived. Do you have a source we could check out?

As in all wars (and this will be a war before it's over with), the problem is not with the people but with their leaders. If left alone, the Mexican people would much rather stay at home and live as their parents did. Unfortunately the peasant people of Mexico can no longer make a living growing corn, and face the choice of either watching their children starve or migrating north. Of course this has been planned in advance by the globalists as a neccessity in producing a NAU. The people and cultures must be blended before a single political entity can be expected to operate over all.

In a vacum, people of differing cultures and laguages tend to get along just fine. I have many mexican immigrants as neighbors and prefer most of them to my white trash neighbors. We find a way to communicate when we have to, and the last time I needed help, it was a long-term illegal who was there to give me a ride. If left alone, my neighbors and I would get along just fine. Unfortunately for us all our leaders on both sides seek to foment conflict to further their own ends.

I support closed and secure borders for the USA, and I understand the disease and crime ramifications of the Republicrats refusal to deal with the problem. I simply think we should put the blame of the problem where it belongs; not on the people trying to better themselves, just as our anscestors did, but on the corrupt and power hungry leaders who seek to gain from pitting us against one another.

The more we focus on our neighbor as the problem, the more the globalists win.

Hey Ropy, its one world one people, you dont seem to mind Ameriican business's infiltrating foreign markets but cry like a baby when others do it to you on your own turf. The states is not an island and you wont make it one. What are you going to do when the US, Canada and Mexico go as the EU, who gives a toss who flies what flag or who's on your money diversity makes us stronger not weaker, thats the trouble with to many Americans you dont travel and see yourselves as living in a bubble, well there's a great big world out there to discover, but hey stay the same and go the way of the dinosuar's.

That link doesn't have anything to do with money. It's about US kids being kicked off a US school bus because they spoke English.

Roper

Its time to limit immigration by building a fence on the south border and allowing only the best and brightest. Limit by number until foreign born population is reduced from 11% to 5%, this will allow for assimulation.

I have no problems with immigrants as long as they are productive, assimilate and are legal!

If you want a high paying job, you should move to the oil sands in alberta, canada. I hear the cash flow is insane right about now. A real energy boom in Canada. Houston is also experiencing a boom especially in the offshore exploration and production. Great time to be wildcatting.

Hi Mel, what happens if your not the best and brightest and find yourself on the other side of the fence?

They do not care because they need chaos in order to declare martial law... Anyway, look at how many Americans shoot each other a year with guns, then have car accidents from being drunk and so on, Michael Moore gave the numbers once (he is a patsy) and is was some 10,000 a year from guns. What we see now is foreign gangs moving in, as is to be expected. Back in 1920-40's we saw the Irish gangs move in as the Irish began to immigrate in droves. Now we have Mexicans, so of course logically gangs will follow. How do you stop the violence? Treat people like humans, go back and help them fix their nation so they do not HAVE to come here, and thus the gangs stay in Mexico. Want to stop a gang by something less strenous? Give everyone a fair chance in life, gangs life off of desperation, hostility and racism. Remove those three factors and you have wiped out all but the most hardcore gangs.
The USA is up for a fall now, but a fall into WHAT? A NWO? Anarchy? Despotism? Fascism? Combinations of all mentioned? You cannot have a single strong nation if your a NWO person, so they have to flatten the USA with a steamroller and allowing foreign gangs to cause problems in one way in the WESTERN USA. I live in a boarder state yet have never once had a problem with Mexicans, they mind their own business and go about their own way and leave me alone and I do the same. Mexicans are not our problem, the NWO is as well as the corporations who work with them and are owned by those same people. Sadly we do not know the names of the ones in the deepest corners, they are DARN good at hiding their faces. However should a NWO occure, they have to come out of hiding. Tricky situation yes?

Taking BACK the USA is not easy, they own everything now, so to get it BACK we have to litterly take down and rebuild a whole economy. This puts US in a VERY desperate situation, politians are scared to death of them, and on the whole we have 0 power against them. When your life depends on them its kind of hard to fight them yes?

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