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Each underground base employs 10000 to 18000 workers
Originally posted by sandman658
I did a quick read.
I find this to be interesting.
That is alot of people to keep track of.
Each underground base employs 10000 to 18000 workers
Originally posted by johnlear
The 5 pages of typewriten Dulce papers and drawings contained in the downloads in this thread are the ones I wrote and typed and drew in 1987 after conversations with "Ann West". The typewriter I used was an IBM Executive with proportional spacing which I still have out in my garage. I made the drawings with a black felt tip pen traced from drawings that "Ann West" made from the Dulce videos. The reason I traced them was that hers were drawn in pencil and were very faint and I did not want to trace over her original drawings. I still have her original pencil drawings. I don't think I still have my original drawings because I gave them to John Grace to use in Matrix 1 and I don't believe I ever got them back but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by johnlear
The 5 pages of typewriten Dulce papers and drawings contained in the downloads in this thread are the ones I wrote and typed and drew in 1987 after conversations with "Ann West". The typewriter I used was an IBM Executive with proportional spacing which I still have out in my garage. I made the drawings with a black felt tip pen traced from drawings that "Ann West" made from the Dulce videos. The reason I traced them was that hers were drawn in pencil and were very faint and I did not want to trace over her original drawings. I still have her original pencil drawings. I don't think I still have my original drawings because I gave them to John Grace to use in Matrix 1 and I don't believe I ever got them back but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by The_Time_is_now
Originally posted by johnlear
The 5 pages of typewriten Dulce papers and drawings contained in the downloads in this thread are the ones I wrote and typed and drew in 1987 after conversations with "Ann West". The typewriter I used was an IBM Executive with proportional spacing which I still have out in my garage. I made the drawings with a black felt tip pen traced from drawings that "Ann West" made from the Dulce videos. The reason I traced them was that hers were drawn in pencil and were very faint and I did not want to trace over her original drawings. I still have her original pencil drawings. I don't think I still have my original drawings because I gave them to John Grace to use in Matrix 1 and I don't believe I ever got them back but I could be wrong.
Wow!, you wrote that stuff? Wouldnt the Government be after you?
Originally posted by johnlear
The government doesn't go after people with second hand information.
Thank you for the info Mr.Lear, so why has this come forward now or recently, and what do you make of the James Casbolt revelations?
John, a question for you. Have you ever been out to Dulce, or in the vicinity? if so, did you find any evidence that the base exists, or that there are alot of weird things going on there?
Originally posted by Telos
I've seen the Dulce Papers before but regardin the footage isn't that been debunked as a fake? Or I better say is part of a footage used by Norio for that japanese documentary about Dulce back in the early 90-s and then somebody got the part from the documentary and used as a authentic Dulce footage. (i'm talking about lab section and cryogienic vats) I might be wrong but that's what I know.
Originally posted by johnlear
Every video I've seen of Dulce I believe to be faked. I've never been inside Dulce so I wouldn't know for sure. Regarding the Japanese video of Dulce if you will compare it with the video the Japanese prepared for the Lazar show in 1990 you will see that it looks indentical in rendering and background. The same people who prepared the video simulation of what it looked like inside S-4 most likely prepared the simulation of the inside of the Dulce labs.
Originally posted by johnlear
I drove to Dulce in 1987 on a research trip. I had been with a UFO research group in Crestone, CO. for a few days and then drove to Roswell with Linda Howe to see Clifford Stone. I then drove by myself back through Albuquerque, up through Santa Fe and Espanola and up to Dulce. I checked in at a motel and called Gabe Valdez, a New Mexico Highway Patrol officer I had heard about. He told me that his patrol was from 10pm to 6am and I was welcome to come along. He picked me up at the motel at 10pm and when we shook hands he said, “Hey, I know you! You flew in here in a Lear Jet years ago with Dean Martin’s girlfriends and some steaks for Dean Martin.” I had forgotten but when I was flying charter out of Van Nuys in the early 70’s we got a call to take some fresh steaks and Dean Martin’s girl friend to Dulce where he was filming a movie. Getting the Learjet into that little Dulce strip was no easy task especially because it was around 7000 ft. altitude.
Gabe took me on patrol, winding in and out, up and down little canyons and roads in the inky black darkness of that New Mexican night. We stopped and had some green chile and corn tortillas about 2am. During that 8 hours we talked about the underground base at Dulce, Bennewitz, Col. Ernie Edwards, Bill Moore, Richard Doty and everything else.
The next day I rented a car and tried to drive up to the top of the Archuletta Mesa to see if I could find where the atomic craft has crashed a few years earlier. It was winter, the car didn’t have 4 wheel drive and I nearly slipped off the road into a canyon. I didn’t find any hard evidence the base existed but I was certain it did.
[edit on 6-8-2006 by johnlear]
"Dr. Bennewitz reported that the craft had clipped off a large tree in it's descent, had hit another tree, regained altitude, skimmed over the peak of Archuleta, [and] hit a third tree in the valley north of the peak. It was then reported to have hit the ground, flipped over twice and came to rest. We found the trees as reported by Bennewitz. They were all in line with each other and the final resting place. The first tree was about 40 inches in diameter. It was hit about 30 feet off the ground. There was no fire. I have taken samples of this tree for analysis. The other two trees were smaller [approximately 12 to 20 inches in diameter]. There was evidence of fire with these. Samples of [these] trees were also taken. Between the second tree and the third tree we found large pieces of what appeared to be part of the first tree. One piece was burnt while next to it was one that had not been burned. Samples were taken. While searching for physical evidence, a standard issue style ball-point pen was found. This is of the same type used by the U.S. Government but can also be purchased by the general public. Strange to have been found in such a remote place as this canyon. The alleged crash area showed a large SEMI-CIRCULAR area with new vegetation. The area above the semi-circular area was covered with new vegetation also. Samples of the soil of this area were taken.
I thought soo ... besides as far as I know Castello didn't make it in time to release in public that 12 min black and white video. And also as far as I know the persons who he trusted either gave up and got rid of things he left to them or disappeared.