US Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay Military Tribunals, page 7

Originally posted by shots
Oh, come on now, bringing in some conspiracy theory will not work here, so let's use known facts from government and major media sources only (no conspiracy sites allowed) if you do not mine.

For starters news.bbc.co.uk...

Or

en.wikipedia.org...

It is not a conspiracy theory shots. I am intrigued that you forwarded a link to the BBC. Have you seen the BBC's brilliant three-part documentary called "The Power of Nightmares - The Rise of the Politics of Fear"? In the third episode they detail how Al-Qaeda was literally created by the FBI to fit the legal framework of trying Osama Bin Laden in absentia based on laws authoured to combat the mafia.

To try Bin Laden in absentia for the African embassy bombings the FBI had to prove that Bin Laden was the head of an organisation that you could become a member of. That way he could be tied to the organisation and held criminally responsible for all of their actions. The "corroborating" evidence used by the FBI to construct Al-Qaeda around Bin Laden was an ex-associate of Bin Laden's called Jamal al-Fadl. Al-Fadl was on the run from Bin Laden after stealing money from him and had been passed around various intelligence agencies across the globe, none of whom were interested in what he had to say due to his dubious intentions.

The FBI paid al-Fadl tens of thousands of American tax payers money and entered him in the Federal Witness Protection Program. He then told them exactly what they wanted to hear regarding Osama and his rag-tag bunch of disparate Jihadis.

I highly recommend you watch the series and evaluate your stance on the matter.

The Power of Nightmares

Originally posted by shots
I already told you once, one of their leaders. Pick up any major paper and they will list two names now. Osama bin Laden and Aymen al-Zawahiri either of them will do just fine.

So its only a war on Al-Qaeda? Dont you remember Osama Bin Laden's offer of a truce that was flatly rejected by your President? Are you even following current affairs any more? If they will do just fine why were they rebuffed?

Originally posted by shots
No one can guarantee anything all you can do is hope. How many treaties did it take before the wars between France, Spain and the UK ended their ongoing wars?

Sorry shots but you are highly deluded. The offer of a truce with Al-Qaeda was rejected by your government.

Originally posted by shots
Excuse me??? I think you have me confused with someone else I never called them "illegal combatants" that would be you. As for their treatment they are being afforded treatment under the Geneva convention In fact I would dare say they are getting better treatment then most other countries would afford them yes they even have air conditioning imagine that

Again you are deluding yourself here shots.

The camp has drawn strong criticism both in the U.S. and world-wide for its detainment of prisoners without trial, and allegations of torture. Many detainees are held by the United States to be illegal combatants, and thus not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention.

Wiki on Gitmo

So you disagree with the United States government's classification of these detainees as "illegal combatants" and henceforth not afforded protection under the Geneva Conventions? Are you actually differing from the US government hymn sheet for the first time I have ever seen?

Originally posted by shots
Hey it is not me changing the definitions that would be you, so you may want to follow your own suggestion

If I wrongly implied that you subscribed to the US government's definitions of what those detained in Gitmo are classed as then I apologize. You must admit its an easy mistake to make though

Originally posted by Souljah
Well I will tell you something - I have this Hunch about you, that you are not here just to "Debate", but to spread certain propaganda, and I also think that you are getting payed for that. Now we all know for a Fact, that there are several Undercover agents in the Media and on the popular Forum boards such as this - and I have you also in my Sights.

To be quite frank Souljah, I doubt he is a paid propagandist because he isnt very consistent and not very convincing. If I were a political entity and paid for this sort of propaganda I'd be asking for my money back.