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Originally posted by Marduk
How do you get in debt from writing a book anyway
didn't you get a publisher ?
Originally posted by whylistentome
I know this thread is probably long forgotten but I needed to address some of the things you are saying in your replies. Primarily to that of Shinn. He was shown to completely contradict himself on 3 separate occasions when it came to Bimini. Also, what qualifications did he have for archeology?
Originally posted by whylistentomeHe had a BS in Geology up to 1998 when he was given an honorary PH.D. for his writings. The guy was never qualified to do anything on Bimini.
Originally posted by whylistentomeIf you would read the article that was given (the mysterious-america link) you will see in his own words how he seems to jump around direct questions on these contradictions.
Originally posted by whylistentomeThen he even goes so far as to say that Bimini was just for fun. It wasn't scrutinized as much as a "real" job would have been because his peers wouldn't be checking it out as much. Nice statement to make about something that has been often talked about.
Originally posted by whylistentomeI mean, he man didn't even know of the other ancient harbors that are sunken across the globe. They have been verified to be such and are virtually identical to the formation at Bimini and yet he makes the statement "they are probably natural formations too" without having ANY knowledge on them. This guy is a joke for what he does and his writings need to be scrutinized. His first posting in 1978 completely, and I mean 180 degrees, contradicts what he wrote in 2004. So, how can you believe someone that pays so little attention to detail?
Originally posted by whylistentomeAlso, as to the carbon dating, that was done by a student that was LEARNING the process and was later refuted by none other than Shinn himself! He wrote an article on the carbon dating process when applied to beachrock and states that the results are unreliable because of natural occuring carbon particles in the ocean that work their way into the stone. He even stated that this can significantly change the dates to much earlier than they truly are. So, another contradiction.
Originally posted by whylistentome
It appears that this is a matter of ego instead of science. He doesn't want to "look bad" so he is trying to stick by his very rusty guns.
Whatsamatta Marduk, getting nervous?
Originally posted by Marduk
you don't think that Cayce got his knowledge of esoteric matters from books then which would explain why they were so similar to the work of Ignatius Donnelly, Helena Blavatsky, Gerald Massey, Rudolf Steiner and Piazzi Smythe
I hear that he was paid for his readings as well
is that true or not ?
Originally posted by Marduk
www.bahamapundit.com...
Edgar Cayce, a salesman turned psychic
what did Cayce sell ?
He was a salesman for a wholesale stationary company. Nothing more. Nothing less. This is during the time of his life when he was struck with aphonia (the throat problem that prevented him from speaking.) Just so you don't get the idea that he was a great used car salesman type. hehe
Originally posted by Marduk
He was a salesman for a wholesale stationary company. Nothing more. Nothing less. This is during the time of his life when he was struck with aphonia (the throat problem that prevented him from speaking.) Just so you don't get the idea that he was a great used car salesman type. hehe
was this before or after he worked in a series of bookshops
i just like finding the truth too
i love the way that Greg Little is refuting a qualified geologists report on a geological feature as well and the only person you think to Question is Shin
Dr. Gregory Little holds a master's degree in psychology and a doctorate in counseling from Memphis State University
i bet that comes in handy when he's studying beachrock
[edit on 29-8-2006 by Marduk]
Yes, he worked misc. jobs on farms, in bookstores, etc. because he finished school in his 7th grade year. So is he a genius for working in a bookstore? Does this make him a scholar now? When he spoke in public with people he was a mild natured man that many would have considered "uneducated" simply from the way he spoke. So, by working in a bookstore are we saying he is now able to speak in the sentences that he did? Of the things he did?
Maybe I should have left school after the 7th grade if that is what you are implying by the statement.
Again, are we attacking a long dead man or are we talking about some formations in the ocean off of the shores of Bimini?
Anyway, just want to try and get things back on topic instead of attacking someone that cannot defend themself. I don't know about you but in my culture I believe it to be extremely rude to attack the dead.
In his 2004 article, Shinn asserted that because the alleged mounds can be seen from the air, “believers say it was prehistoric archaeological site built by extraterrestrials from the Pleiades.”
That is another odd and inaccurate wide-sweeping claim. Dr. David Zink, whom Shinn refers to as“Edward” Zink, received funding from the ARE for several years prior to the publication of his 1978 book, The Stones of Atlantis. In that book, Zink utilized a psychic to attempt to garner information about the Bimini Road. The psychic related that visitors from the Pleiades constructed the formation. After publication of Zink’s book with the unfortunate Pleiades assertion in it, ARE
funding ceased. In truth, I am not aware of any “believers in the Bimini Road” who believe what Zink stated, nor am I aware of any ARE members who make that assertion. But the Pleiades idea Zink put forth was made was about the Road site—not the mounds—and it is Zink’s idea alone.
Shinn claimed that he got the information on Edgar Cayce
from a pamphlet published by the Cayce organization (the ARE). In his article Shinn claimed that
“Cayce asked a patient where Atlantis was” and “the patient told Cayce Atlantis was in the Bahamas
at Bimini.” It is an untrue statement and the Cayce organization has never published anything
stating that. Of course, Shinn didn’t remember the title of the “pamphlet” nor does he now have it.
Cayce most specifically timed forecast was that Atlantis would rise again in 1968 or 1969. Needless to say, Cayce was wrong on that count. [Note: However, it was in that time frame that the "Bimini Road" was located in the Atlantic Ocean. Whether this is a "road" or "natural, geologic erosion" is cannot be proven. Atlantis suffered 3 major destructions one of which was the deluge
Edgar Cayce predicted that dramatic physical changes would affect the Earth in the years 1958-1998 and would begin with the eruption of Mt. Etna.
The Great Lakes would empty into the Gulf of Mexico linked with a time when ancient repositories would be discovered as people reached the appropriate level of consciousness. The three repositories mentioned are Egypt, the Bimini area, and the Yucatan.
Activities by Mt. Vesuvius or Mt. Pelee, or in the southern coast of California and the areas between Great Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada, we may expect, within the three months following same, inundation by earthquakes, more in the Southern than the Northern Hemisphere. Portions of the New York, or New York City itself, will disappear as well as the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia.
Land will appear in the Atlantic and Pacific. [Rise of Atlantis.] And what is the coast line now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many battle fields of the present will be oceans, seas,the bays, the lands over which 'The New World Order' will carry on their trade as one with another.
The waters of the lakes will empty into the Gulf. It would be well if the waterway were prepared, but not for that purpose for which it is at present being considered. Then the area where I am now located (Virginia Beach) will be among the safety lands, as will be portions of what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, and much of the southern portion of Canada and the eastern portion of Canada, while the western land -- much of that is to be disturbed as, of course much in other lands.
The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea.
The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye.
When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Etna area, then we many know it has begun.
There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the torrid areas, and there will be the shifting then of the poles - where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow.
Originally posted by Harte
I think that a Hancock thread is hardly the place to talk about little, Cayce and Shinn though.