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Capitol Hill gunfight??? tony blair arrest???

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posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe


Wait- Blair wasnt arrested. He was whisked away.



how can he be whisked away, when he had a preplanned speech that went out in the location that they said he was due to speak from? without any delays either?




posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:45 PM
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I find it really creepy that this 'happened' just a couple days before Bush passed that law against whistleblowing. Is he hoping he can arrest any government employee who has knowledge of this, and ends up leaking it? I find it such a weird coincidence involving this story, the Rayburn shots fired version, and Bush passing that whistleblowing law.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:49 PM
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I'm not sure that the alleged arrest of Blair has anything to do with the shooting or the alleged documentation and conspiracy regarding the trainline.

I believe these are actually two different conspiracies and the Blair arrest conspiracy is detracting from the shooting reports.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by mooonhoxe
I find it really creepy that this 'happened' just a couple days before Bush passed that law against whistleblowing.


There was no law passed. It was a Supreme Court decision.

IMO the whole Tony Blair arrest thing might be a red herring. It looks like a bunch of spooks had a shootout in a parking garage but over what we may never know.
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posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:51 PM
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From the "source"


Washington news outlets are reportedly being discouraged from filing Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to acquire the evidence and reports.

ALSO:




AFA operatives had planned to arrest Prime Minister Blair to appear before the Patrick Fitzgerald grand jury to explain doctored British-Iraq War weapons of mass destruction evidence according to the intelligence sources.

Federal agents said Blair was spirited to Andrews Air Force base after the shootout, reportedly “white as a sheet,” while screaming “they can’t do this” as he entered the jet under military escort back to the United Kingdom.






[edit on 1-6-2006 by dgtempe]



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:52 PM
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The relationships between the agents are weird and do not make sense. French and British work together under EU laws and agree moment of sharing information and supporting eachother. Irsaeli's have a close relationship with British intelligence and British have worked along side American's for decades. This story does not make sense at all. How can there be an "epic gun battle" ? i think the author of that story has been watching 24 too much.

This is nothing but conspiracy capitalism in my eyes.



Federal agents said Blair was spirited to Andrews Air Force base after the shootout, reportedly “white as a sheet,” while screaming “they can’t do this” as he entered the jet under military escort back to the United Kingdom.


Wow! is that straight from a film?

come on, that source is weak. Until i see other sources backing up the "battle for america" im not buying it. Decent conspiracies have more than one source, this one doesn't so far. and the facts are standing taller aswell.

[edit on 1-6-2006 by infinite]



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Gools
There was no law passed. It was a Supreme Court decision.

IMO the whole Tony Blair arrest thing might be a red herring. It looks like a bunch of spooks had a shootout in a parking garage but over what we may never know.
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Its more like a coup d'eta on the administration. That is more believable.

Tony Blair is just a fantasy that someone has made up to make an interesting story. Which isn't believable. If Blair had attempted arrest on him, it would of got out and you would have a crisis.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:00 PM
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When Mossad is involved nothing makes sence, hmm I posted some thing about their peculiar sops, some time ago though.

When looked at with these possable details, it does not paint a good picture.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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Here's some info on the building... firing range in basement.

rdu.news14.com...

"The Rayburn House Office Building was completed in early 1965 and is the third of three office buildings constructed for the United States House of Representatives. It sits southwest of the Capitol. The building has four stories above ground, two basements, and three levels of underground garage space.

The U.S. Capitol Police Department's Containment & Emergency Response Team maintains an indoor shooting range in the basement of the Rayburn building, according to the department's Web site."


Also could this be tied into the William Jefferson thing at all?

"The event occurred at the end of a week of unusually tumultuous series of events that ironically enough, began in the same building. FBI agents armed with a search warrant seized documents and computer material from the first office of Rep. William Jefferson in an weekend raid. Jefferson is at the center of a federal bribery investigation."





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posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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.
Mmmmm. Diversions; deliberate derailing of topic; ridicule of topic, etc.

Seems as if Sentinel's post finally dragged the moles and minor-agents away from their usual porn and gaming obsessions, in order to earn their keep via attempts to discredit and dismiss clues and news.

They really were sleeping at their posts! Took them nearly five pages before they noticed this thread, lol.

Blair has a double or two. If even one iota of the OP is based in fact, the real-Blair will (like his counterpart-puppet in the US, any time it looks as if it's hit the fan) be hiding in a deep bunker as we speak, his childhood teddy-bear clasped to his sunken, fearful chest. 'Gutless' doesn't even begin to describe our warhawk 'leaders'.

If Blair came close to danger during his US visit, then of course his minders would swing into contingency 'rebuttal, diversion' mode --- and what better than to loudly publicise his 'holiday' on the other side of the globe, with his 'double' exposed to capture, assassination, etc. It's more than likely Ms.Blair prefers the company of her spouse's double in any case.

We have to remember that the British secret service is the most expert and experienced in the field. The Mossad, and virtually every other nasty, trained under them. It's their job, unfortunately, to keep Blair in one piece and out of the hands of those who will bring him to justice.

They all have 'doubles'; usually more than one. Observers claim to have spotted at least three Bush impersonators.

No surprise at all that 'an Israeli' warned the Brit agent in the OP. Seems those Israeli's have fingers in just about everything that ends up adding to the sheepies collective despair and misery.

Anyway, just imagining a 'white as a sheet' Blair being bundled by his minders into a speeding getaway car has done much to brighten my day.

And for what it's worth, I find the OP quite believable. 'They' are not anywhere near as untouchable as they and their forum-posting drones would have us believe. Nor are we without friends and defenders, many of them being quite resourceful. Whether or not we'll one day have the opportunity to string Blair, Bush and their cronies up by their heels with their wizened testes shrivelling in the breeze is yet to be seen. But we (and/or our children) will almost certainly see them cringing in the dock, selling each other out like rats. Roll on that day !!!!



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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infinite - Tony Blair wasn't arrested. He is currently in Italy on holiday. And at the time of the shoot out he was given a speech about UN reform remember? IT WAS FILMED AND AIRED ON TV so how can he be arrested. There is nothing else on the internet about this, that link is the only source. Sorry. Im not buying it., Alex Jones is not even saying anything on this and propaganda matrix have a different view. This would be the sort of story they would jump on.


Thanks man now I can take a big sigh of relieve.. inanyways if they had arrested him, canyou imagine the dimploctic crisis it would have cause....

Would they have kept that out of the Mmedia Spotlight?

That would be big newssssss



[Mod Edit: Tag correction. Please use [quote] [/quote] tags for internal quotes. - Jak]

[edit on 2/6/06 by JAK]



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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You know there is plenty of evidence to be found that there is some kind of civil war among the spooks in the last few years.

It's not unheard of.
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posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:02 PM
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Infinite, did you see my response as far as ^

what happened to Blair? I put up what the story provided.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by ADVISOR
When Mossad is involved nothing makes sence, hmm I posted some thing about their peculiar sops, some time ago though.

When looked at with these possable details, it does not paint a good picture.


What does Mossad,British, French and American intelligence all have in common?

regime change

The theory of a failed coup is more likely. If it leaked about a failed coup, it would spark a chaos and would result in charges of treason. MAYBE a fake attempt to arrest a Prime Minister, draws attention away. who knows.

But, its obvious no attempt was made for an arrest and Blair wasn't taken away.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Infinite, did you see my response as far as ^

what happened to Blair? I put up what the story provided.


i know



To behonest, i do not buy the idea of Blair being whisked out of America or the attempt to arrest him.



Mmmmm. Diversions; deliberate derailing of topic; ridicule of topic, etc.

Seems as if Sentinel's post finally dragged the moles and minor-agents away from their usual porn and gaming obsessions, in order to earn their keep via attempts to discredit and dismiss clues and news.


As an conspiracy theorist, its my job to break a story down, study it and see if there is any truth. Its not to believe everything on the internet and screaming "CONSPIRACY" at the top of my lungs. ATS does not promote conspiracy capitalism.

We are simply breaking the story down, finding out what is true and isn't. The Blair part is obviously not reliable and nore is the source itself. Just keep looking for an alternative source (which there isn't at the moment)

If you want my advice, you should follow the route of a failed coup its more likely due to the rating of the current President. His war on terrorism is taking out vital assets of the CIA,MI6 and Mossad. Thats your first reason for a potential coup.

Recent news of a Mossad inflitration of the White House. Remember that



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:25 PM
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I found this also. It's another thread about this subject. Onepost that caught my eye was this...

"This looks to be an isolated incident right now. There are reports of two women running from the gym telling police a gunman is hiding in the gym. Capitol Police are now airing a description of a suspect on the PA. White male 5/10 175 lbs."

www.outsidethebeltway.com...

I seem to remember reports of this somewhere on the news that day. Anyone else remember this or who was reporting it???



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by mecheng
I found this also. It's another thread about this subject. Onepost that caught my eye was this...

"This looks to be an isolated incident right now. There are reports of two women running from the gym telling police a gunman is hiding in the gym. Capitol Police are now airing a description of a suspect on the PA. White male 5/10 175 lbs."

www.outsidethebeltway.com...

I seem to remember reports of this somewhere on the news that day. Anyone else remember this or who was reporting it???



There was conflicting reports of a white male and hostages.
SWAT were seen trying to find this man, but apparently (i think) it was all later denied. The white male was mistaken for a police officer



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 05:03 PM
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Mecheng.....that also caught my eye. Here's another I saw....

The CNN report said that TWO women reported seeing a man with a gun run into the Rayburn gym. Curiously enough, according to this mainstream report, the woman who had the "panick attack" and needed medical attention was COMING FROM the Rayburn gym too.
I beleive the Capitol police attributed the "man with a gun" to be a plainclothes officer.


www.cnn.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by infinite

4:00pm was the time the speech went out live on UK TV.

The shots took place before the speech. I was watching Skynews all day, waiting for it. It was shown on the interactive service cause the main window was about the shots. But it went out live. Skynews said that the shots overshadowed Blairs epic speech.



But wait......I have the answer. Tony Blair posseses awesome mental powers and can bi-locate at will! No wonder the Brits made him leader!!!!!!!!!


Seriously though, i cant see a single shred of evidence implying that Blair had anything to do with the gunshots and such.

It was a New Jersey Rep who reported the gunshots. Did anyone else hear them? I find only references to one report of the gunshots from the building.

It is odd, I must say, but where does odd point to in this circumstance?

Oh, and back to ol Tony Blair, lets just pretend he was in D.C. on that day. What the hell would he be doing in the Rayburn building anyway? Its the offices of the representives. Not capitol hill itself. if he was there, believe me, he would have a huge entourage of security and media personnel surrounding him.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 05:23 PM
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Ok, listened to the audio and at 20:15 (or 20:12 if you prefur), I went over his statement about AFA.

There are some navy.mil and state.gov links in the above linked search. Just had to pass along the history this brings up.



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