Bayer (Phamaceutical Company) Laces Drugs With HIV - Gets Caught, page 7

Digging up an old thread, huh? Well, thanks, cause I had never heard about this.

Hearing about this made my head spin.

I have to say, that to argue that Bayer was completely oblivious to the fact that their product was tainted is absurd. Maybe, when they very first put Factor VIII on the market, Bayer was innocent, but as stated before in this thread, the minute that Bayer was made aware of the potential link between their product and the new mysterious disease, it should have been pulled.

Originally posted by bsl4doc
So you're telling my that, despite the fact that we had little to no knowledge of HIV, you are willing to base your opinion on a lawyer (because we all know lawyers don't lie for personal gain like fame, right?) who keeps saying the medicine was tainted without any evidence?

Just for comparison, HIV wasn't even DISCOVERED until 1984, and we didn't have any way to test for it's presence until about 6 months afterwards. So, remind me again how Bayer could have known that there was HIV in the medication from 1978 - 1985 as your video suggests?

It may sound nice to say that HIV wasn't discovered until 1984 and allude to the idea that Bayer couldn't possibly have been aware of the disease, but the fact is that in 1982 AIDS was given its name. And, for all intents and purposes, at that time, AIDS and HIV were the same thing.

The first AIDS cases in the United States were reported in 1981, but the illness was not referred to as "AIDS" until 1982.
www.redcross.org...

In 1982, children who had been given blood products had already started dying from tainted supplies and the connection between blood products and AIDS had been made. The evidence...

Later that month [July 1982] the first reports appeared that the disease was occurring in Haitians, as well as haemophiliacs... In December a 20-month old child who had received multiple transfusions of blood and blood products died from infections related to AIDS. This case provided clearer evidence that AIDS was caused by an infectious agent, and it also caused additional concerns about the safety of the blood supply.
www.avert.org...

Even if somehow Bayer was still clueless at that point, did they not ask any questions when the FDA banned it in America three years later in 1985? They absolutely, without a doubt, knew their product was, at the very least, an extremely high risk for carrying this new disease. Personally, I'm convinced they knew 100% it was tainted from 1982 onward.

The whole point is that, in the face of knowing their product was almost certainly helping to spread a new fatal disease and after being banned in America, Bayer chose to peddle the product off to other countries just so they didn't have to take a hit financially. This, at the expense of thousands of people's lives. That is beyond criminal. And the FDA wanted the case settled "quickly and quietly".

Shows just how well the FDA is looking out for Big Pharmaceutical, er, I mean the people.

edit: fixed quote

[edit on 1-8-2007 by evilod]

reply to post by bsl4doc

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How many years do scientists need to study a virus before understanding it is a virus?

HIV first appeared at the end of the 1970's. Around the time period when our military enlisted pharmaceutical companies to create biological weapons of mass destruction. It's no coincidence that AIDS became the pandemic it is. It's contrived and calculated.

The fact that people accepted AIDS as a gay disease shows just how calculating the minds behind the manipulation and execution of this bio-terrorism are. Ask your self if it were true, how did gay people contract HIV in the first place? Why were the gays the first group of people recognized as having this virus? Why was illegal substance users the second group of people recognized as the HIV infected?

This is criminal homicide of the first and second degree. This is crimes against humanity.

Big Corp has a history of evil deeds. This is just another notch on their evil belt. That belt being named "U.S. Security and Overseas Interests". If your interests are not their interests then you become a security threat and will be dealt with accordingly.

Bayer intentionally infected those people. Because their internal documents say they knew about the tainted medication before it left their factories. Bayer was negligent, after knowingly allowing a tainted drug to be administered, they chose not to tell patients that the drug was contaminated. This recklessness resulted in the drug being removed from the American market, sold overseas and thousands losing their life, here and there, because of it.

Pardon me for not sharing the same empathy you have for Bayer. Especially since Bayer was under the IG Farber umbrella, the conglomerate involved in the Holocaust. A company with that type of tie being completely innocent, go figure.

If you were involved with a person who received that tainted medication you wouldn't be so cavalier in your response. If you were involved with someone who used to be involved with a person who dated a hemophiliac who had taken the tainted medication, you would be mindful in your response. Or, if you had a child who had married the child of a hemophiliac who had received the tainted medication, you would be a lot more empathetic and sympathetic to the feelings of those who were trusting in a system that has used their trust against them.

Their actions affected everyone. People mistakenly think that evil deeds only affect those with which the deed was done against. It affects everyone associated with those persons, including you and I.

OK .. first off, this is murder..

Murder is: the unlawful killing of another human person with malice aforethought, as defined in Common Law countries. Murder is generally distinguished from other forms of homicide by the elements of malice aforethought and the lack of lawful justification. All jurisdictions, ancient and modern, consider it a most serious crime and therefore impose severe penalty on its commission.

source

why? ALL murder is pre-mediated.. thus, it requires the fullest sentence!!!

reply to post by eudaimonia

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Not population control at all, it's class warfare, and they ARE DEFINITAVELY THE A%@)#&%) WAGING IT!!!!
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reply to post by TONE23

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This is odd.. My half brother father died in an Arkansas Prison from aids. He was in prison for the most of the 80's. I wonder if he was one of the inmates who's blood was taken and donated.

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