*breathes deep and tries to calm down* *looks at slave's post again and spontaneously combusts*
I feel like a real idiot going after Byrd on this issue after Atlantis has been associated with such romantic dribble, but for those of you who have
actually READ the dialogues, remember that the faint heart has never yet raised a trophy, so here I go.
1 A. Are you absolutely certain that there couldn't have been a discussion of Atlantis without you? Not perhaps while you were in the men's room or
out to lunch?
1 B. If this subject never came up, why did anyone endeavor to prove by some scientific or historical method that Plato was lying? For that matter,
have you actually SEEN a copy of the confession which I presume you are alluding to. (Afteral, scientists don't jump to conclusions do they?)
2. As pointed out earlier, he wrote two dialogues, one of which makes a reference to Atlantis and one of which is focused on a war between ancient
Athens and Atlantis. It details the origins, location, government, military, and destruction of the island.
3 A. The deluge story is found on all six continents. If it came from a single common source about a single region you have to truncate the timeline
of human history and put all of humanity in close proximity to eachother somewhere just a few thousand years ago. Only a Christian would go for that!
As a matter of fact, you can scarcely avoid this because of the level of detail shared by the story on different continents. For example, in Apache
and Toltec beliefs, the flood was followed by a Tower of Babel story.
3 B. Furthermore, Christians may be happy to believe in Atlantis- Plato says atlanteans were mortal children of Poseidon wiped out by an inundation-
this falls right in line with the deluge destroying the Ephilim.
3 C. One last question- are you a Norse supremecist? How many cultures histories can be undermined by an omission in Norse history? And do the Norse
expressly believe it didn't happen, or do they just not believe that it did? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
4. On the subject of survivors, it is interesting to note that several American cultures say they come from Aztlan or Atlan. I'll give you three
guesses where the word Aztec comes from. The word Hurricane has European roots, but it is also the name of a god of the abyss to a certain tribe (i
think toltec or olmec). The Clovis people of the Americas had primitive technology like that of Solutreans on the Iberian Peninsula and in France.
There is ample evidence for trans-atlantic relations in ancient times, some of which explicitly suggest the existence of Atlantis, and some of which
is certainly easier to explain at least if Atlantis did exist.
Now let's go to the dialogue and get some truth. No more fantastic half-baked dreams.
Plato doesn't say Atlantis has ultra-modern technology. He makes it pretty clear that Athens is the boss, and he mentions that the Atlantean army
uses chariots, archers, swords, etc.
Plato says it's right outide the straight of gibralter, and big enough to be an impassible barrier of mud to ships saling to any part of the sea. The
mid atlantic ridge fits the bill.
Plato makes it pretty clear that these people did not flee and build Greece, Egypt and CERTAINLY not Rome. Slave's author is just insane on this
point obviously. Plato speaks of Atlantis, Greece, and Egypt among other nations all side by side, and Rome was a younger heir to the Greeks. If there
were Atlanteans, they were not much different from the rest of the world and they likely did very little for us after the fall of their homeland,
except to be personally assimilated into cultures that don't even remember them anymore.
In the end, I have to side with byrd against the general tone of slave's post, which makes a great special for Unsolved Mysteries and a very annoying
piece of reading for those of us who want to decide for ourselves based on the facts. At the same time, i can't help leveling my guns on the words of
a very bright individual who is just a little too comfortable with the things he was always taught.
This last link shows the Mid Atlantic ridge, with 3 offshoots facing Spain. It is somewhat reminescent of the trident shape which is associated with
Poseidon, and his portion of the earth projecting from the sea.