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Originally posted by Nygdan
The cross symbol for Shamash from Babylon that you are thinking of is...the cross.
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SHAMASH The sun. For the Sumerians he was principally the judge and law-giver with some fertility attributes. For the Semites he was also a victorious warrior, the god of wisdom, the son of Sin, and 'greater than his father'. He was the husband and brother of Ishtar. Shamash is represented with the saw with which he cuts decisions. In the Mesopotamian poems 'Shamash' may mean the god, or simply the sun.
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Some Biblical Historians think Nimrod could well be the vile and powerful Gilgamesh in the ancient Gilgamesh Epic. Gilgamesh sets out to hunt for, and kill the God who sent the flood! In the Epic Gilgamesh claims to have killed "Huwawa", the sender of the great flood. Gilgamesh seeks the aid of Shamash, the sun god, who hates the terrible one who sent the flood.
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Originally posted by Nygdan
Even IF the devil invented the swatstika, and no one, anywhere, originally, could've came up with it on their own, and it only exists everywhere because of the devil's work, what does it matter? The people using it aren't worshiping the devil. If they are worshipping christ, then what does it matter if there is a swatstika?
Are you saying that the swastika and devil are more powerful than christ, and that a christian who accepts christ as personal saviour is thrown into the lake of fire, beause there was a swastika associated with them??????
Gilgamesh sets out to hunt for, and kill the God who sent the flood! In the Epic Gilgamesh claims to have killed "Huwawa", the sender of the great flood.
Nimrod marries his mother Semiramis. Shamash marries his sister Ishtar. Osiris marries his sister Isis. Semiramis is Ishtar and Isis.
Catholics are not taught about a personal relationship with Christ.
They are taught a religion of salvation through works.
They are taught a mystery. Listen to a Mass. Behold the mystery of changing bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Originally posted by Nygdan
Even IF the devil invented the swatstika, and no one, anywhere, originally, could've came up with it on their own, and it only exists everywhere because of the devil's work, what does it matter? The people using it aren't worshiping the devil. If they are worshipping christ, then what does it matter if there is a swatstika?
Are you saying that the swastika and devil are more powerful than christ, and that a christian who accepts christ as personal saviour is thrown into the lake of fire, beause there was a swastika associated with them??????
Catholics are not taught about a personal relationship with Christ. They are taught a religion of salvation through works.
Mystery Babylon..........They are taught a mystery. Listen to a Mass. Behold the mystery of changing bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.
Originally posted by Nygdan
That is not the mystery. The mystery is that christ has died, that he has risen, and that he will return. The mystery is the central tennant of hte faith, the death, resurrection, and second comming of christ and salvation through him.
In Christian belief and practice, a sacrament is a rite that mediates divine grace, constituting a sacred mystery. The root meaning of the Latin word sacramentum is to "make sacred". Views concerning both what rites are sacramental, and what it means for an act to be sacramental vary among Christian denominations and traditions.
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The seven sacraments are also accepted by Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy, but these traditions do not limit the number of sacraments to seven, holding that anything the Church does as Church is in some sense sacramental. To be more accurate, for the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Christian the term “Sacrament” is a Westernism that seeks to classify something that may be impossible to classify. Preferably the term “Sacred Mystery” is used, the reason being that the “How it is possible” is unanswerable to human understanding. God touches us through material means such as water, wine, bread, oil, incense, candles, altars, icons, etc. How God does this is a mystery. On a broad level, the Mysteries are an affirmation of the goodness of created matter, and are an emphatic declaration of what that matter was originally created to be.
Despite this broad view, Orthodox divines do write about there being seven "principal" mysteries. On a specific level, while not systematically limiting the mysteries to seven, the most profound Mystery is the Eucharist, in which the partakers, by participation in the liturgy and receiving the consecrated bread and wine, understood to have become the body and blood of Christ itself, directly communicate with God. In this sense, there is no substantial difference from the practice of other churches of the Catholic patrimony
BY NYGDAN
Mystery Babylon is almost certainly a coded reference, exoterically refering to the religion of babylon, which had destroyed the jews and held them as slaves, and esoterically a reference to the roman state and its religion, which was destroying the christians and making them slaves, NOT the vatican, which didn't exist, and certainly it wasn't meant to include peopel who worship Christ.
The Circus of Nero lay in the same axis as St Peter's to the left as you look at the western front from the Piazza. The site for crucifixions in the Circus lay along the spina ("spine"), the central division of the track round which the races occurred. Early Acts of Peter describe the spot as inter duas metas ("between the two metae or turning-post"), that is, in the spina or middle line of Nero's circus, at an equal distance from the two end goals. Such a traumatic event for the Christian community is likely to have been correctly recalled. At the center of the spina stood the obelisk which was re-erected in St Peter's Square in the 16th century by the architect Domenico Fontana, a feat of engineering memorialized in a series of fine engravings.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
The Eucharist is proclaimed a mystery in the Mass.
The Catholic Chruch is Mystery Babylon that dresses in purple and scarlet
The Church of Rome was nothing more than the Roman empire operating in the guise of Christianity.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
You might notice the cross of Baal on the Popes vestments, the same sign that is on a German warplane.
Originally posted by stumason
The cross I believe you allure to is the Iron Cross. That was and still is the motif used on Luftwaffe Aircraft. It has nothing to do with Nazism or the swastika and actually has it's roots in the Teutonic Order of Knights in the Middle Ages.
but constantin banned all the gnostic texts. gathered the ones he would like people to follow in the bible
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Originally posted by stumason
The cross I believe you allure to is the Iron Cross. That was and still is the motif used on Luftwaffe Aircraft. It has nothing to do with Nazism or the swastika and actually has it's roots in the Teutonic Order of Knights in the Middle Ages.
The cross on the German warplanes is the cross of Shamash the sun god. Shamash is just another version of Baal.
The cross can be traced to Babylon, thousands of years before the middle ages.
The Iron Cross (a black four-pointed cross with white trim, with the arms widening towards the ends, similar to a Maltese Cross) was designed by the neoclassical architect Karl Friedrich Schinkel and reflects the cross borne by the Teutonic Knights in the 14th century, which was also the emblem of Frederick the Great. When the Quadriga of the Goddess of Peace was retrieved from Paris at Napoleon's fall, the Goddess was re-established atop Berlin's Brandenburg Gate. An Iron Cross was inserted into her laurel wreath, making her into a Goddess of Victory.