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The "Born Agains" began to take control of the Republican Assemblies in the state of California way back in 1991 and their control and influence has spread across the rest of the states since then. It is said that there are over forty million "Born Again Christians" in the US. Many people rightly believe that the "Born Again " movement is fascist in nature and in it's practise! These fascist "Born Again Christians are against homosexuals and they believe in exclusive salvation . Exclusive salvation means to them ; only those who are "Born Again Christians" will enter the kingdom of God! All others will burn in hell! They are Anti-Christ.
Here again there is a definite inverse or reverse symbolism! In the world of the Satanics , everything is inverted! They invert the cross, they believe that good is evil and evil is good! A Born Again cult member in Ireland once told me that the greatest sin was ; a Satanist to masquerade as a clergyman , a genuine follower of Jesus !
This is the reality of the "Born Again "Christian movement. It would be incorrect to label all "Born Agains" as deceiver Christians. My "Born Again " sources in Ireland have explained to me that the top members in the Born Again movement are Satanists but they do recruit innocent and genuine people to be used as pawns for their evil designs. It is easier to identify suspect Irish "Born Again" Christians for the simple reason, Ireland has traditionally been a Roman Catholic country and the Irish Born Agains can be counted in the hundreds rather than hundreds of thousands. I cannot reliably accuse all US based Born Again Christian groups of being deceivers or satanists but there are many indicators which strongly point in that direction.
However, one thing must be said ; " all "Born Again Christian " groups , The Church of Christ etc , which have close ties to the CIA must be very suspect!
source: www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com...
Judge not, for thy will be judged the Bible says!
For those to judge anyone if they be homosexual or whatever nature of weakness, is wrong! See, only God knows their hearts, and why they do what they do. One does not know when a person is alone and praying to God, what their prayers are, they could be pleading with God for strength to be changed. And if they don't plead that doesn't mean their hearts are evil, that's not for us to judge them, but love them! Some homosexuals, were molested or abused, some have homonal imbalance, etc. thank God he knows us through & through.
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
Judge not, for thy will be judged the Bible says!
Really...but here you are judging homosexuals when you say:
For those to judge anyone if they be homosexual or whatever nature of weakness, is wrong! See, only God knows their hearts, and why they do what they do. One does not know when a person is alone and praying to God, what their prayers are, they could be pleading with God for strength to be changed. And if they don't plead that doesn't mean their hearts are evil, that's not for us to judge them, but love them! Some homosexuals, were molested or abused, some have homonal imbalance, etc. thank God he knows us through & through.
This is you judging homosexuals. You say it's okay for them to be homosexuals if they plead with God to be different. Why should they do that? Many homosexuals are happy to be so. Some are not happy being gay, but most are happy. You can only come up with sexual abuse or a hormonal imbalance as an answer to why some people are gay. Do you think that is fair to the gay community? Most gays are gay simply because they are attracted to the same sex, not the opposite sex.
The whole paragraph I posted of yours above does nothing but judge homosexuals and yet you say "Judge not, for thy will be judged." Quite contradictory......why don't you just admit your true feelings instead of dancing around them?
[edit on 6-4-2006 by Excitable_Boy]
Some homosexuals, were molested or abused, some have homonal imbalance, etc.
The question is; WHY are they attracted to the opposite sex? Since man and woman were meant to be attracted to each other, and reproduce, it would make sense that heterosexual is the natural "norm", and homosexual is not (as, at this time, it is impossible for two men, or two women to reproduce). Taking into consideration that heterosexual is the natural norm, we tend to question why homosexual men and women are born, or why heterosexual men and women can be transformed into homosexuals.
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
The question is; WHY are they attracted to the opposite sex? Since man and woman were meant to be attracted to each other, and reproduce, it would make sense that heterosexual is the natural "norm", and homosexual is not (as, at this time, it is impossible for two men, or two women to reproduce). Taking into consideration that heterosexual is the natural norm, we tend to question why homosexual men and women are born, or why heterosexual men and women can be transformed into homosexuals.
Why? Because they just are. Is that so hard to fathom? I am a man and married to a woman that cannot reproduce because she has had a hysterectomy. Does that mean we shouldn't have sex? Since we are only having sex for the pleasure of it? Not all hetero sex is done to reproduce. Is that okay in your world?
Why are homosexuals born? Why are any of us born? Why are some people born blind, or paralyzed or missing limbs or with extra limbs? Why Why Why....
How about this why: Why not accept all people no matter how different they are? Black, white, yellow, red, gay, straight, Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Catholic, Protestant....etc.......
This kind of crap will end when everyone on the planet realizes that we are all human beings...nothing more and nothing less!
God does not hate the sinner but believe you and me he hates the sin of homosexuality and all who practice it. Even as terrible as the sin is if you confess that sin and ask jesus christ to cleanse you and come into your heart he will rid that evil spirit from you. Salvation is for all who receive it.
god destroyed two cities for the being homosexual.
God also says that if a man lies with a man like he lies with a woman then they both are a abomanation to him.
Our morally bankrupt non believing society who dont want to be held accountable for its actions by claiming there is no god
They are not "Born Again" untill they are "Born Again at The Resurrection".
Jesus made this quite clear, when He explained how one would be "Born Again", so you do have to question those who teach otherwise.
The new birth occurs in baptism where we die with Christ, are buried with Him, and are raised with Him in the newness of His resurrection, being joined into union with Him in His glorified humanity (Acts 2:38; Romans 6:3-4). The idea that being "born again" is a religious experience disassociated from baptism is a recent one and has no biblical basis whatsoever.
We were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life (Romans 6:4).
In Him also you were circumcised with a spiritual circumcision, by putting off the body of the flesh in the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead (Colossians 2:12
St. Paul continues his warning about the coming of antichrist with this command: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle" (2 Thess. 2:15).
"There be some that trouble you, and would pervert the Gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be anathema.
As we said before, so say I now again: If any preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be anathema" (Gal. 1:8-9).
Originally posted by PaRaSiTe
god destroyed two cities for the being homosexual. God also says that if a man lies with a man like he lies with a woman then they both are a abomanation to him.
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
The question is; WHY are they attracted to the opposite sex?
Since man and woman were meant to be attracted to
each other, and reproduce, it would make sense that
heterosexual is the natural "norm", and homosexual is not
edit: I had to add this, Thank God we are no longer under the rules of the Old Testament, or perhaps God would destroy everything, so he sent His Son Jesus Christ to die for All Sins- The Bible Says in the New Testament -
We Are No Longer Under The Curse Of Sin And Death!
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
The question is; WHY are they attracted to the opposite sex?
ANSWER - some are born that way and some, through interactions
in society, are 'behavior trained' that way. I have been updating my
degree. The LATEST information in the psychology books is that
the brains of many homosexuals differ slightly from the brains of
'straight' people. The glands differ slightly. This has been discovered
through scientific study (autopsy, MRIs, etc.). Those homosexuals who
become 'straight' are usually those who have homosexuality as a 'learned
behavoir' and who were not born that way.
Since man and woman were meant to be attracted to
each other, and reproduce, it would make sense that
heterosexual is the natural "norm", and homosexual is not
Evolutionary psychology agrees with you to some extent.
Evolution says that a 'gay gene' should be evolved out. But
that doesn't happen as we can see. There are some, approx
.5% of the population, who are born gay. .5% become gay
through interactions in society. That's an estimate of course.
One interesting tidbit I came across - when a woman is pregnant
and in her second trimester - if she encounters a great deal of
stress, she has a higher chance of having a homosexual child.
The London Blitz gave us a bunch of info on this! A significantly
high number of gay children were born to women who were
pregnant during the blitz. A MUCH higher percentage than the
usual population.
For more information go to the library and read up on
Evolutionary Psychology. You can also read the latest
on Sociology and Homosexuality. That is rather informative
as well.
[edit on 4/7/2006 by FlyersFan]