Originally posted by Blueangel7
The bible tells us to judge not.

Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
Luke 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over, will be given to you. For with the same measure you measure it will be measured back to you.

The verse doesn't say not to judge. It warns that when you exercise judgement, with the same measure you measure it will be measured back to you.
You are being judged everytime you make a judgement. If you are unfair in yours, God will be unfair in Gods. And likewise, if you are fair in judgement, so will God be fair with you.

The verse doesn't say not to judge. It warns that when you exercise judgement, with the same measure you measure it will be measured back to you.
You are being judged everytime you make a judgement. If you are unfair in yours, God will be unfair in Gods. And likewise, if you are fair in judgement, so will God be fair with you.

Point? The topic is that BACs are actually Satanic....how does what you have said relate to that? Are you telling me that by judging them, I too am being judged? Well, that's cool. Judge away everyone!

For those posters who have not bothered to read Excitable_Boy's first post or gone to the website provided there the "External Source" story is about a group of freemasons who have named themselves the BornAgains.

As most should be able to surmise from that information, the rest of the stuff he posted about Christians is equally as suspect.

I realize there are many on board who are willing to believe anything and everything printed that criticizes and demeans Christians and Christianity, but at LEAST, for your own sakes, read the material before assuming the poster knows what he is posting about.

I realize there are many on board who are willing to believe anything and everything printed that criticizes and demeans Christians and Christianity, but at LEAST, for your own sakes, read the material before assuming the poster knows what he is posting about.

I'm sorry....isn't what you are telling people to do the object of an open forum? For people discuss ideas, thoughts, beliefs and for others to take what they want from it?...and add what they want?

How do I NOT know what I am talking about? Most Christian organizations are cults and therefore satanic in nature....is this not true??

Originally posted by Excitable_Boy

Most Christian organizations are cults and therefore satanic in nature....is this not true??

I'm glad you used the word most and not the word all. Lets think about this statement.

If an organization that said it was christian, was actually satanic in nature, it would not be a real christian organization. So this would make it not a christian organization, but one pretending to be a christian organization. Once again this echoes what Jesus said to us to watch out for, deception.

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

So there are organizations pretending to be christian.

You are still avoiding the obvious, Excitable, and so are too many of the other posters. What you started this thread with was a deceit, wherein a group of non-Christian cultists are calling themselves BornAgains, and you jumped from there to your posted criticism and venom about Christians and Christianity as if they were one and the same with your freemason article.

At least do yourself the favor of admitting that what you started with was not about Christians at all and then we can call this whole thread a mistake, to be charitable about it.

And you can continue your "I hate Christians because..." posts.

I'm glad you used the word most and not the word all.

No problem dbrandt...I'm sure there are Christians that are good people...maybe a little confused, but good people.

At least do yourself the favor of admitting that what you started with was not about Christians at all and then we can call this whole thread a mistake, to be charitable about it.

And you can continue your "I hate Christians because..." posts.

Spare us the theatrics curiousity....What I started was and is about Christians. This thread is no mistake. There are a lot of bad people in sheep's clothing out there...you know it...denying it doesn't make it go away!

I never once said I hate Christians. Please show me and everyone in this forum where I said I hate Christians. Oh you can't? EXACTLY!!

Originally posted by Excitable_Boy

originally posted by Curiousity
And you can continue your "I hate Christians because..." posts.

Spare us the theatrics curiousity....What I started was and is about Christians. This thread is no mistake. There are a lot of bad people in sheep's clothing out there...you know it...denying it doesn't make it go away!

I never once said I hate Christians. Please show me and everyone in this forum where I said I hate Christians. Oh you can't? EXACTLY!!

No, this thread is about your ongoing drivel against Christians using bad logic, LIES, denial about homosexuality being an abomination (wonder what that is all about, really I do), and pc garbage that is so nonsensical it doesn't deserve any answers. THAT why I said to go ahead posting "I hate Christians because....." cuz you will anyway.

I'm not trying to change your mind, cuz so far as I can see, it has been warped pretty much beyond the help of "mortal man", God will straighten you out here or there, and you've made your stand clear.

Here is some of what you DID say, Excitable, and it is all you, bud. Each quote is from a different post by you. I got tired of re-reading them or there'd be far more. By the way, not stating right out that you hate Christians isn't important, your words speak for themselves. Denial doesn't ever equal truth unless the words back up the denial:

originally posted by Excitable_BoyIt has come to my attention that many Born Again groups are actually satanic in nature!

Born Again organizations tend to be "fascist" in nature as it says above. They shun homosexuals and believe they have exclusivity on Heaven.

A Born Again, Devil worshiping, Cult member is going to tell me I'm talking drivel?

Not just the Born Again, Devil Worshiping, Cult following freaky kind of Christians.

Born Agains are some of the scariest people on the planet. Scarier than Charles Manson. At least Charles Manson doesn't pretend to be anything other than what he is, a psycopath. Born Agains are sheeps in wolves clothing. Devils pretending to be saints. Sickening!

I'm smart enough not to give my "tithings" to some Evangelists laughing all the way to the bank after every service.

Isn't it God's job to decide if someone is on the path of destruction? What makes you feel you have the power or ability to decide for someone what is a good path and what is a bad one? Aren't you playing God? Aren't you being a false prophet? This is what I mean by Satanic behavior!!

you born gain cult statanists pervert every word in the bible anyway to suit your warped needs and desires.

I can't meet Jesus....he is dead. I will not accept him as my personal savior...sorry to disappoint you. I have a higher power who I choose to call God. I see things very clearly because I'm neither a member of a cult nor a satan worshipper!

I'm not trying to change your mind, cuz so far as I can see, it has been warped pretty much beyond the help of "mortal man", God will straighten you out here or there, and you've made your stand clear.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind either. Warped? Really? Why? Because I won't take Jesus as my savior? How is that warped? Who are you to tell me I am wrong? Are you a false prophet? Jews don't take Jesus as their Savior...are they all wrong? Are they not going to heaven? You my firend are the one that is warped. God gave us the ability as humans to think for ourselves and He allows us to do so. We are not penalized for being free thinking. Maybe in your world...that's how it works...but it doesn't work that way in the real world. God loves us all and accepts all of us as human and allows us to each have our own beliefs.

God will straighten me out? I'm all ready straight friend and quite straight with God. Sorry to disappoint you!! I'm also amazed that you speak for God. Do you think He condones this behavior? If you speak for God, aren't you being a false prophet? Who are you to speak for God? What gave you the right?

denial about homosexuality being an abomination (wonder what that is all about, really I do)

You wonder what this is all about? Why? Touchy subject for you? God loves EVERYONE that's what it is all about friend. He doesn't want us loving only those that look like, act like and think like you....He wants us to love EVERYONE and He loves everyone....whether gay, straight, black, white, red, yellow, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan, Atheist...etc...etc......

Get over your good self and get with God, not Satan....there is no future with Satan.

[edit on 8-7-2006 by Excitable_Boy]

read the material before assuming the poster knows what he is posting about.

This is good stuff curiosity! Thanks for explaining what an open forum is. I think some people were confused about that. Confused about the fact that people on here express opinions and sometimes facts and that the readers of the information can do with that information what they please. That's an open forum.....

Do I know what I am posting about? Yes....I do. People can take the information and do what they want with it.