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Originally posted by ivansusanin
At least learn to quote properly, dana. Go back to your country and blow yourself up for all I care
Originally posted by dana2006
It is better to say, "I don't know" instead of "I don't care" because it's known about Americans that they are naive and ignorant , when you ask them about other nations' history.
everybody knows that average american is living to spend his income at the end of the week, watch football, eat junk food, drink beer , pee, and curse everything.
I am glad finally you are showing your real ugly face...slaves??!! I think it is a good case for arabs and muslims, to sue all western nations and ask for compensation, or is it allowed only for jews to sue others and ask for compensation.
Ohhh poor westerners... you were always peaceful, non-violent angels. millions of native americans (Maya..etc) commited suicide because they were depressed.
Jerusalem’s streets were flooded by the blood of arab muslims, christians and jews, for no reasons , don't ever think that this genocide was commited by the crusaders, knights of the holy cross, who were sent by the pope.
Oh lets don't forget about Vietnam, american soldiers were very peceful over there, what about Iraq, hundreds thousands of civilian Casualties... yeah I heard your excuse for this kind of casualties...collateral damage...you westerners are very merciful.
Text Oh i am glad that you are feeling with palestinians for a change... atleast muslims cut their enemies throughts, instead of raping them like what american female soldiers are doing in Abu ghrieb prison, what a civilized merciful army
NONESENS...please stop being american and try to read one decent source of history that speaks about ARAB AND MUSLIM CIVILIZATION....pleeeese .
The dictators who are appointed by western governments to torture arab citizens (so they can control arab countries resources with cheap prices) for the last 50 years, spend them having fun with western hookers
Text I didn't here it in madrasa ... once again ... I beg you to read some history , instead of watching football, stop showing the worl your ignorance
Text you know why ? because poor israel occupied all water sources in the middleeast, and left the other countries with very little water to use
Text once again , I am not talking about romans or greeks, I am talking about europeans in 10th -19th centuries, do you consider yourself the offspring of romans...hahaha.. romans extingted long time ago ...americans are offsprings of the lowest classes in europe .
Text every civilization has its curve... the american curve is going down...another super power will arise and rule the world very soon
Text I think it's the same madrassa that brainwashed you , and make you say the same nonsense about muslims and arabs...barbaric , violent....terrorists.....the same old sterotypes...I'm reall sick of hearing the same nonesense from you...everyday...growup.
you respect your women alot in the west , so you use most of them as hookers and prostitutes....I didn't see any female president for the US. 99% of representative and senators in the congress are male...correct me if I'm wrong....what's the biggest dream of 99% of american girls?? to become a cheerleader
HELLO...did you hear about the CRUSADES...it means JIHAD in your language...did you hear Mr. bush's speechees...in most of them he mentions ...holy war...I wonder what he means by that??!
OHHH poor Americans....so what was Mr. bush's excuse when he flattened Iraq and Afganistan to the ground...wasn't it revenge....
Text next time be more accurate when you talk about women and children killers, americans, russians and israelis are the most active killers in this category.
I think it's not your problem...it's between us and saudis, but I blame the saudis who let a racist like you to live in the holy land , and pay you for owning such a heart filld with grudge and hate against arabs and muslims.
Wow I didn't know that you consider Kuwait a western country
talking about the slums....our countries turned to slums because western governments are exploiting our resources for more the 100 years
because they are afraid of us....we call it islam and arab phobia ...it's not our fault if you don't like us...it means that you have some issues that need quick therapy.
Text your land??!!! you are american for god's sake...nobody knowa your roots even you...so how come that arab land is yours?!!
Text and who told you that jews will return "your christian land" to you...if you believe in that...allow me to say that you are naive.
Text fyi prophet muhammed didn't write the koran ......he's only a messenger ...koran from god...and god forbidden that prophet muhammed said even one thing wrong....sking solomon and jews are mentiond in koran ....so what... it doesn't mean that they own palestaine...what's the link??!!!
Text thanks a lot.... where is the freedom of speech of the western world? or it is only for westerners...no need to be so sensetive ....and touchy ...comparing to your talk mine is alot logical and mature. american little boy.
Originally posted by IAF101
Originally posted by dana2006
I mean if you talk about rock concerts as satan worship...
My two youngest nephews go to a Baptist School here in the States and one thing that struck me as odd was one of their teachers. My sister goes and helps out with stuff, it being a small school and what not. One of the teachers who is only a year or two younger than me asked the kids in his fifth grade class if they were going to go see a certain movie. Of course the kids were since it was "Revenge of The Sith", so my sister asks him if he is going. His reply was, "No, why would I want to go and get beer spilled on me?" My sister just stood there with a look of disbelief at what he just said. When she finally let it sink in she asked him what he was talking about. It came down to the fact that his parents had told him all movie theaters sell beer and they are places of vice, so to speak. The community in question is not very large and there is to my knowledge no theaters in this State that serve alcohol. Mind you this guy was about 24 or 25 at the time of this occurence. Not that there is any point to this beyond the ignorance of some people and the way they stunt the mental and spiritual growth of their children with lies. The same can be said of the statement of "Satanic" concerts. Which I take offense to as I do enjoy some "Black" metal from time to time.
The torture of prisoners? I guess having your head lopped off is more humane than panties on your head. Stop whining about it you pu**ies. Look at the tortures committed in the previous wars throughout the past millenia. This crap is just one more reason for western culture to distrust certain followers of the islamic faith. I am so g-ddamn tired of hearing this one-sided tripe. I am starting to think that some of the people on here claiming to be muslim aren't. With their weak excuses and consistent professings of how the problems of the middleast is the fault of western society. It gets a little droll. Do people actually think that overnight things are going to be made alright? Is it western cultures fault that there are a few money hungry rulers in the middle east? I don't buy the crap that peoples of the middle east hate our freedom. What they do hate is the fact that countries like America could actually fight and attain their freedom from a country as powerful as England. Lack of caste system = unhappy hatemongering muslims.
Imagine- Then when we fight for our right- All we're called is terrorists.
I guess thats the problem. There building little villeges in our own land and we must shut our mouths up until the right time comes. There sucking it little by little as if its theres.
I do feel sorry for the Palestinians. They have been used as pawns for political leverage for decades. They have been taught that hatred is pure and good, that murder is righteous and that suicide is honorable. They have not been given a chance to live as hopeful and free human beings. Those who have perpetuated this sick situation is not Israel, however. No, while Israel has furnished electricity and water, their "brothers" have furnished weapons and explosives belts. It is sad that this is the case, and it is sad that Israel is forced to protect her children in such a manner. What is just as sad is that the Jihadists refuse to renounce violence and give the children of both sides a chance.
Why do People like urseleves are soo ignorant to understand we as a world are one race. It really bothers me when i see people with this mentality.
I as a Palestinian do not support the suicide bombers but i do believe that we have every right to defend as every screwed up soldier in our Land [ PALESTINE]
. And i believe you would do more than just kill - You would kill a person with such cruel punishments then claim " They we're terrortists when they were protecting there kids and women.
Please try to understand two sides - Dont be such an ignorant coward. It really shows the idiotic paths you take.
[said by Dana2006
...talking about the slums....our countries turned to slums because western governments are exploiting our resources for more the 100 years
There is a bit of false internet lore circling the globe about life in England in the 1500s. One of the claims this gem of wisdom makes is that the phrase throw the baby out with the bathwater comes from the practice of taking annual baths using the same bathwater as the other family members. By the time the children got a chance to bathe, the water would be so dirty that infants could be lost in it. Hence the phrase.
The phrase in question does happen date to the 1500s, but the rest of the above story is pure fancy.
This is actually a German proverb that dates to 1512. It was first recorded by Thomas Murner's in his satire Narrenbeschwörung. Despite its fame in German (used by such notables as Luther, Kepler, Goethe, Bismarck, Mann, and Grass), it doesn't appear in English for several more centuries, until Thomas Carlyle translated it and used it in an 1849 essay on slavery.
Stories of poor European hygeine are exaggerated.
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
I must say...
I feel for the palestinian people, especially those that cant make it to work, due to the roadblocks/checkpoints/barriers... and for those that have their houses taken from them... frankly... those things hurt innocent palestinians badly...
But not as badly as a suicide bomb hurts children...
trumps all right there...
Palestinian kids getting killed- thats sad, but were they throwing bricks?
It's to bad their parents taught them that, or else they might still be alive...
Parents teaching survival traits will save the palestinians.
Parents teaching hatred will ensure the palestinians get hurt/killed.
Gazrok and Nygdan said it best, but i think everyone gets the gist.
If Palestinians will be the tolerant, loving, accepting, people you pretend to be, then things get better for the palestinians
Or keep denying the role terrorism plays on the troubles of the palestinian people, and see what happens. (nothing different)
Which is doing the same thing as always, but expecting different results
(which in case you weren't aware, is a laymens definition of insanity)
Originally posted by MsPalestinian08
PALESTINE IS NOT ISRAEL! Palestine is PALESTINE [Jerusalem and all of Palestine]
Originally posted by Riwka
Originally posted by MsPalestinian08
PALESTINE IS NOT ISRAEL! Palestine is PALESTINE [Jerusalem and all of Palestine]
Could you please explain what you mean with this? I would like to know if
you recognize the State of Israel
you are aware of the fact that the Westbank under international law is "disputed territories" to which both, Arabs and Jews have claims and since there was no other sovereign authority, Israel, representing the Palestinian Jews, had as much right to settle people there as the Palestinian Arabs.
[edit on 21-3-2006 by Riwka]
Originally posted by IAF101
If you think arabs and muslims' world is centred around mullas and madrasas, it means that you are stupid or blind, hello ...wake up naive american , palestinians alone have the highest number of PHD holders in the world, and they surpassed jews in this category for long time ago.
God ....do you think all people are stupid ? who believes this crap? mayan civilization collapsef because of "draught",
hehe... you granted native american lands and rights....for god's sake they are the real owners of america, you can't grant them their own land, it's theirs from thousands of years ago....see ..this is the arrogance of the white western people that I'm talking about.
and you know something, I don't want to be one of this kind of greatest nation. to be one of the white americans who slaughtered millions of native americans and stole their land then put them in enclosed remote places , segregate them, tech them all kinds of vice (drinking alcohol, gambling...etc), I'm gonna kill myself , insted of being one of you.
you valued their culture ...ha.....bunch of lies....what about thousands of hollywood's western films, were red indians are villains and white cowboys are good heroes??!!!! before arabs and muslims americans considered red indians terrorists ....hahaha.
You can read the Gospels and see that unlike Mohammad's version of all djinn will be tormented in hell etc, .
Unfortunately the great SALAH AL-DEEN, came and kick your white pale butts...hehhehe.
the message of Christ which even Mohammad says is the true message of God, is one of compassion and one of mercy. Ther is no word of Crusade/Jihad in the Gospels; unfortunately the Koran is not like that with Mohammad repeated mentioning Jihad and killing people. You can deny it but I have a big Koran with me and I can show you the chapter and verse if you dont know yourself !
I don't waste my time reading fake bibles, re-written by zionist, who put some false information in your holy book, to convince some naive christians that , jeasus will come back , only when jews occupy the holy land and build their imaginitive temple there...even the real jews in palestine don't believe this crap.
See that is the difference, we fought open wars because we were brave( America- Land of the Free, Home of the Brave !) but cowardly Arab terrorists dont have that bravery and instead do car bombings and suicide bombings! I dont think Mohammad wrote anywhere in the Koran that Car bombers and suicide bombers go the heaen and get 72 virgins, do you ?
yes we muslims believe in the message of christ , moses, david,...etc. you can't compare the teachings of koran to the bible or to any other holy book. every messenger of god had his own mission. prophet muhammed was the last tru messenger of god, and he had his own mission, to spread the word of god to the whole world. this is called " jihad", it does'nt mean killing people as your twisted mind thinks.
but as you always say , when you fight the evil you should do some killings, wasn't it your excuse when , you killed thousands of Iraqi and afgani civilians inorder to get rid of osama bin laden and saddam. so why can't you imagine that , inorder to spread the word of god, muslims needed to do some killings also, it's pure logic, as westerners alwas say...collateral damage.
Its shamefull isnt it ? Arab Men getting raped by Western Women ? That was the point of the exercise but I doubt that any Western woman would actually want to rape a stinky man who is locked in a prison.
I heard that america was the (land of beggars, home of robbers).
please don't try teach me lessons about cowardice.
cowards, who bomb major cities killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, by using hundred of thousand of missiles from hundreds of miles away.
cowards , who torture tied prisoners, and abuse them sexually.
do you want me to continue? i have tens of example if you want to read about american bravery.
In anycase, that act by the prison officials were not the actions of the US military,as these are not military procedures but rather the acts of individuals.
GOD....WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICAN WOMEN?!! yes it is very shameful , for the rapist, not the victim as you think.
I can't describe my feelings when I saw on tv, that american woman touching the iraqi prisoner's genitals and smiling. i expected this from a man but not a woman, ooh I forgot ... these are the american women who got all their rights and living in free world. how come they are behaving like sexual predators??!!! I am confused.
I did and all I found was a bunch of insecure religious fantics who through bullying and intimidation spread their perversion through out the middle east, subjugated women, destroyed indeginous cultures- Buddhists in Afganistan, Zorastrians in Iran,Egyptian civilsations,Indians in India, that native Iraqi religion(Forgot its name~!) etc, spread war and famine in all the lands they took and never left untill they were kicked out. And now that the tables have turned they whine and moan like sissies and claim some great injustice upon themselves. Pitifull really !
Ohhh , what a pitty....The same old excuse...we are sick of western crap...same cliche's.
You seem to be obsessed with hookers, do you in any way share a certain kinship with them ??
this is a typical racist's interpretation of history, try to read some of Karen Armstrong's books about the greatness of arab-islamic civilization, instead of reading books, written by anti-arab, anti-islam racists.
Oh right, Arab women arent allowed to get education so I guess you might not have learnt this from your local mullah or maybe the local jehadi recruiter. Arent there women fundamentalists in Islam ?
atleast I am sure that I am not a child of one of them, opposite to you, I bet you don't know whose your great grandfather, the milkman or the mail man?? hehehe.
Well where did the Romans magically disapper of too? they didnt just go to heaven on a golden eagle did they? And no I dont consider myself as a Roman or a Macedonian for I know my ancestory.
I wonder if the Saudis were keeping you in a deep hole. your ingnorance of arab society amuses me. once again , even you are blind or stupid, I think the second one.
Read about William wordsworth's journey throught the land of Palestine.
well, it is a mystery like your explanation of the disappearance of mayans.
So for the Arabs its one power after the other is it?? Unfotuntately we dont share this philosophy in the West and even though China is growing well it still has miles to go before they catch up and with growth rates like this they will either stable out in the future or break into a civil war with the growing dissent in the rural populace. All this is obviously news to you so I leave you informed.
Is he one of the many Orientals, with hearts full of grudge and hatred a gainst arabs and muslims, who used wander in the arab world and write bunch of lies?
Tired of hearing sterotypes ? Maybe you can tell that to the suicide bombers and the terrorists busy making explosives in their basements that the West is tired of the sterotypical carbombs and explosions in Iraq and the middle east. Maybe when this sterotype actually ends you will stop hearing people call you lot terrorists. Go ahead : Speak to a Jihadi near you !
Dont be foolish. Havent you heard of the Harems that you ARabs have kept for centuries ? There is even a place in Istanbul called Harem where all the whores lived during the ottaman empire. So THIS is your culture isnt it?
try once , instead of watching your silly football, to think seriously, why terrorists (as you call them) are doing these acts?? I know what's your answer...because arab and muslims are jelous of us, because arabs and muslims are bad bad people...blah...blah ....same western arrogant stupis cliche's...... try once to think objectivly and you will find out why arabs and muslims hate your evil deeds.
As for American Women, they have gone to the space, study with in the best schools in the world, serve in our military and also are some of the most leading politicians. As for your 99% figures,HAvent you heard of Condalessa Rice? She is the most powerfull woman in the world ! And I would like to see how many arab women get into Harvard business school as opposed to Western Women ?
wake up , harems existed hundreds of years ago, and they have nothing to do with Islam, islam forbiddens adultery . these days harems are illegal and are not existing, on the contrary to the brothels in the western world, that wer existing for thousands of years ago and still existing and very legal and you are very proud of them.
Dont fool yourselves, Islamists are terrorists and the people around the world treat Islamists like terrorists, thats why they hate them. They cant even go on a plane without crashing it into abuilding and killing everybody on the ground and in the plane, thats why they dont let arabs people on planes no more. Well, atleast most people dont want to go on a plane with Arabs on it. You want links ?
I admit it, arabs can't compete with americans in this category. in 200 years you had 2 leading women , miss Rice and Miss. Albright, oohhh what a progress?
The land belongs to the Israelis and the palestinians are the illegal occupiers. The arabs should be happy that Israel doesnt kick out all the palestinians and take back that land so that they can use it for a better purpose.
NO COMMENT- TYPICAL RACIST TRASH TALK
We dont want them to return our land, because the land is both Chirstian and Jewish and they welcome us to visit Israel, which I have been to many times. Maybe if you lie that you are not an Arab and visit Israel you may actually find out what true civilization really is. Freedom, democracy, liberty and where women are treated better than most parts of the world. Maybe you will learn what freedom is and that women you are not actually to be treated like a two legged camel.
WHO APPOINTED YOU ADVOCATE FOR JEWISH RIGHTS? ARE YOU AMERICAN JEWISH OR ZIONIST?
very nice image...alas ...but it's a big lie.....after visiting the wonderland "israel" go and vist the palestinian territories...look how the democratic , peaceful , nice israel, treats palestinians? how israel keeps palestinians in crowded dirty slums, after stealing their land, businesses, farms, and everythin. It is now been more than 50 years, since Israel occupied palestinian land , and what makes me nuts, that stupid zionists like you , spread all these lies about the what's happening in palestine, and nobody dares to tell you shut your stinking mouths.
the rest of your comments are nonesense, so i didn't waste may time and energy in answering them.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
They were slums long before the Westerners starting developing the oil fields and exporting the oil. It's improved a lot because of western investment.
instead of showing me your silly footages, go and visit spain, who built these palaces and gardens in Andalusia and al hambra...etc.....guess who....ARABS.....and it was hundreds of years ago when westerners used to live in one big room with their animals, Scandinavians are very proud of these houses, you can see them there.
Originally posted by MsPalestinian08
How could you be loving? Happpily smiling after they killed your whole family?? TOOK OVER YOUR HOME
Originally posted by Nygdan
Also, again, I am trying to be perfectly honest here, why don't the palestinians rise up against them? Because the impression that I get is that the bulk of the people in the occupied territories leave it up to groups like hamas and the plo, rather than rising up en mass. You guys outnumber the yehudis be a great factor, you have weapons, and you're angry, it'd work.