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Originally posted by sparkyloveandlight
Scenario;
1) What if you were abandoned at birth and you drifted in a boat to a paradise island that was untouched by any man and you managed to survive by relying on chimpanzees to help bring you up. They would feed you and nurture you and bring you up as one of their own. As you got older you would have striking similarites to a chimp as you would adapt and communicate like them, eat like them and act like them. BUT! You still have a soul which "Jesus" died for so he could free us from all sin and allow us everlasting happiness.
You would never come into contact with another human ever and you would die at a very very old age but gracefully and peacefully i would imagine. So whats the point? i here you all shouting. Well as this baby was not brought up by society and never knew what else existed without the island it would not know christianity in any way shape or form. So therefore he (assume) would go to hell as he never believed in the almighty saviour. "But it wasnt his fault!" i hear you cry. So what christianity doesnt make allowances, it says here, "look right here" in verse 5.
2) Maybe i have taken this perception - not believing in christ and going to hell- too far but this is what i know of the faith and quite frankly it stinks, its wrong and it a load of B.S
3) Come and have a go at me for being anti christian(even though im not) Christians worry too much about what Jesus would think of them for wasting their lives not living by his strict standards. This puts them in a state of continual repent, as they make a mistake and then they always end up making a few more and thinking its ok ill go to confession, talk to another equivalent human being and see if God will let me get off the hook again as long as i say these wee stories(prayers) itl be ok. I can walk back down that isle and get my wheat wafer and wholeheartedly believe it is the body of christ.
People need to spiritually awaken but not by looking at religion for boundaries to work within but by looking inside our hearts and minds as we all have the power to be at one with infinite conscioussness and when you experience life with your mind free of beliefs and dogmas then, and only then, can you be truly free of the matrix.
4)I want everyone on this board to try something. Imagine your body floating upwards with outstretched arms and with the most powerful white light emmanating from your whole being. Imagine all your pre-learned beliefs and negative emotions being set free by the light and you will feel a lot better. Do this on a daily basis and imagine it more vividly each time until you can feel the power of the white light surround your whole being.
We are all the the "one". We are all Neo. We are al one in the same.
"The love in me will set me free"! - repeat this daily too it will help you find your path i promise.
Dont hate anything or anybody only disprove and show it the light so it can be healed.
Everything evil or malicious is only ill and the world can be returned to a normal loving state with the belief deep down that love is all there is and all there can be.
5) We have the power to change the way we are and who we are. Dont rely on religion to set you free as this will damage your free flowing loving thoughts and make you a prisoner in your own mind.
6) Its time to set ourselves free and forget about the past. What is done cant be undone and the sooner we start again and work toward a global conscioussness of ourselves and the universem then we will progress be made.
Love and Peace to all
Originally posted by snatchypaws
1) I am not anti christain, I am anti religion ....... religion stands in the way of truth ..... why because your TOLD to just believe because someone else TELLS you ........ Where is the evidence?
2) Sparky is on the nail here and good on him for thinking logically and laterially. If you were born in a box, stayed there all your life how could you be blamed for not beliving and going to church? You can answer with any passage from the bible that give you a get out of jail free card for this questions ............ any sensible person can see the question leads to one answer - if god made us and our purpose was to serve. We would be born with a manual (so the true knowledge wouldn't be be lost) and we would all have
'MADE BY GOD' stamped on our arses!
3) Religion stands in the way of logical thinking, when I said to you 'Let Jesus come before me and I shall believe' you reply with I have to believe first and then see ........ what nonsence is this, when else does this happen in the real world?
I burn my hand therefore I know what ever I touched was hot, NOT I had to believe it was going to burn me before it actually was going to hurt me!
4) Thousands of years ago religion was used as a very effective social control mechnism. A good tale to stop people being nasty to each other. These days people take it as the absolute truth .... God is real, Jesus was real and start to research about the history of when Xmas really was, okay so December the 25th isnt the ACTUAL birthday of the fictional character called Jesus ............ its just what happens through the generations when people tell stories about the bible, things change
If your fathers farther told him and he told you, YOU would think it HAS to be true ...... not so
You are indeed using the Matrix film as a cover to justify the christain faith .... and religion.
Why should I care ......... because the motto here mate is deny ignorance ..... not listen to nonsence and suck it up and beg for more.
Its a shame people actually think you have something to offer.
5) I'm not going anywhere, I'm not running and hiding. Your beliefs are your but your WRONG my old son, logic and science are on my side.
Please at least try to tackle what I am saying ....... dont just lace up another tale and end with
The matrix rolls on
[edit on 2-3-2006 by snatchypaws]
[edit on 2-3-2006 by snatchypaws]
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Yes, it is very likely that the Matrix has you. What is the Matrix? The world created to keep you from the truth.
All these conspiracies are really only part of the one true conspiracy. Are they creating a New World Order? Yes. Are there Freemasons? Yes. Are there Aliens? Yes. But all of these conspiracies and others are only part of the one true conspiracy. The Matrix. The Lie.
I contend that you live in the Matrix right now. Just like the movie, you are born into bondage, blind to the truth. A world has been created to keep you from the truth. I'm not talking about Artificial Intelligence or turning people into batteries. I'm talking about the truth.
The purpose of this thread is to pull back the Matrix and show you what is really going on in the world. It is to show you the truth and trace all of these conspiracies to the source. There is only one source.
This is just your introduction. Later, I will set the stage and show you some of the things that you are not supposed to see. Things that have been going on right in front of you that you are blind to. So check in with me for a couple of days and let us see where this takes us.
Originally posted by OneGodJesus
Originally posted by snatchypaws
1) I am not anti christain, I am anti religion 1) The proof is in the pudding "my old boy". Evidence, I invite you to repent, Get baptised in Jesus NAME and the evidence you get if you are infact repentant will be tongues. There is your evidence. You will have no control over that most unruly member the tongue.
2) We do have God stamped on us. It is not on our hindside though it is in our hearts. People will always serve something. It might only be that they serve each other, but they will serve something and never be truely satisfied at the end of life, regardless of how many things you buy or how many people you help. It is like a drug that never get any better but you always want that first high again like the first time. I've done counseling with drug addicts and they all say the same thing. "I was searching for something and thought it was X (place whatever you will in the X)". It is God they are searching for and just haven't figured it out yet. After you show them the book that is our giude to life they know what to read. You just give them the scriptures and let them work at them until they understand. When they come and ask you explain it to them and ask if they see it. If not back to prayer and fasting for them to understand.
3) Religious people were the pioneers of science man! Do you not read history and who it was that invented the things we have today or the foundations that todays science stems from? I can't believe you made that statement after saying how "logical" you are...
4) So oral history is irrelevant in your opinion? You are about to offend 2.6 billion people if you say yes.
5) So history is not a science?!? Close the universities and institutes of learning, bubba snatchybutt has spoken...
[edit on 2/3/06 by OneGodJesus]
wow the only other person ive seen on here that belives that we have to have the name applied during baptism. jesus is the name of the father son and holyghost. yah onegodjesus!
so far you've only been wrong three times that i have noticed. cupid is the roman name of erros, greek god of love, son of aphrodite.
and easter is based on the eqyptian goddess of spring and fertility
Saturn is the same as Nimrod who died and became Baal, the sun god. Check the net, there should be plenty of info to confirm this.
, and december 25 wasnt the birthday of baal, it was a day that the romans celebrated their cheif god's father, saturn
Please, what facts aren't straight?
next, its just as likly that moses was a messiac parallel to jesus as that jesus is a messiac parallel for someone who hasnt come yet, which is actually to say quite likly as the church sees so little in jesus that they've always used him as a tool to shut down the holidays of other religions. if he was real, you'd think they'd be more interested in getting the facts straight
finnaly, this is page 4 already and all you've done is show a laughable ignorance of theology and you seem to want us all to know that all of the gods of all religions are alive and they all hate us and satan turned himself into an evil computer program from a movie.
A man must learn to use a hammer before he can build a house. And when the man is blind I must show him how to find the hammer.
get to the good stuff or dont but stop waxxing philosophy and back yourself up
and one final clarification: im not attacking you or anything, the fact is that i take this kind of knowlodge seriously. you seem to be going somewhere with this and it'd be nice if you would use some evidence. just look on this like constructivecritisism. what you're saying is prety interesting
So clear is it. Gee, I thought I was talking about the present and showing you exactly what you don't see.
After reading what you wrote it is still clear to me that all you are doing is looking back in time through the history of religion and actually showing us all what inteligent people know
I agree with everything you said. Totally. I have absolutely no use for religion. It is just part of the lie, the Matrix.
Religion is a lie ............... just because a lie is thousands of years old still makes it a lie. I am not anti christain, I am anti religion ....... religion stands in the way of truth ..... why because your TOLD to just believe because someone else TELLS you ........ Where is the evidence?
I have no use for religion. I'll take provable facts and the truth.
Religion stands in the way of logical thinking, when I said to you 'Let Jesus come before me and I shall believe' you reply with I have to believe first and then see ........ what nonsence is this, when else does this happen in the real world?
Again, the movie is about spiritual blindness and what is happening in the world today. You can't seem to even understand the movie.
You are indeed using the Matrix film as a cover to justify the christain faith .... and religion.
Please...........When you are not busy, take your science and logic down to the "origins and creations forum" and jump in the "Hydrogen turns into people" thread. Someone down there is taking names and kicking arse.
I'm not going anywhere, I'm not running and hiding. Your beliefs are your but your WRONG my old son, logic and science are on my side.
Please at least try to tackle what I am saying ....... dont just lace up another tale and end with
"The Matrix is everywhere, it's all around us, here even in this room. You can see it out your window, or on your television. You feel it when you go to work, or go to church or pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
To sum up to this point.
I have identified the lie. The Matrix that is used to blind you. It came from Babylon thousands of years ago. It is the false religion of the sun god and the fertility god. It is all around you, but you are blind to it. Harmless you think? We will look into that.
"The Matrix is everywhere, it's all around us, here even in this room. You can see it out your window, or on your television. You feel it when you go to work, or go to church or pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."
I have only identified a few of the places that you see it currently. Places that you likely were unaware of. Well, be sure and get ready for mothers day. The goddess Isis, who is Ishtar, who is Semiramis is hoping that you will pay tribute. It is her day and
The Matrix rolls on....................
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Yes, it is very likely that the Matrix has you. What is the Matrix? The world created to keep you from the truth.
All these conspiracies are really only part of the one true conspiracy. Are they creating a New World Order? Yes. Are there Freemasons? Yes. Are there Aliens? Yes. But all of these conspiracies and others are only part of the one true conspiracy. The Matrix. The Lie.
I contend that you live in the Matrix right now. Just like the movie, you are born into bondage, blind to the truth. A world has been created to keep you from the truth. I'm not talking about Artificial Intelligence or turning people into batteries. I'm talking about the truth.
The purpose of this thread is to pull back the Matrix and show you what is really going on in the world. It is to show you the truth and trace all of these conspiracies to the source. There is only one source.
This is just your introduction. Later, I will set the stage and show you some of the things that you are not supposed to see. Things that have been going on right in front of you that you are blind to. So check in with me for a couple of days and let us see where this takes us.
So not sure of his angle but it ain't recruitment me thinks.
When did this "matrix", created by Satan begin?
could you start at the end and work backwards
Ok, I know you're letting those of us trapped here in this matrix have little bits of knowledge at a time for our own sake to be able to digest it, but I am impatient and have a two questions:
When did this "matrix", created by Satan begin? Was it something that evolved over time, compounding itself as it went along, kind of like a snowball rolling downhill getting bigger as it goes, or did it happen overnight?
Second and last question, could you start at the end and work backwards?Tell us the "truth" and then explain why it is so? I say this because, again, I am impatient
Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.
wow, shocker, christianity is the only religion...blah blah blah
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Yes, it is very likely that the Matrix has you. What is the Matrix? The world created to keep you from the truth.
All these conspiracies are really only part of the one true conspiracy.
Actually, people that are wrapped up in religion are searching for the truth and have very possibly only found the Matrix.
People who are so wrapped up in religion are deficient somehow with their own minds.
Lastly I will repeat. I am not anti this and anti that jumping at religion. I AM however against people who try to spread their views as FACTS and EVIDENCE to those who do not know better.
This is going to be my closing statement for the day
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
wow, shocker, christianity is the only religion...blah blah blah
No, religion is part of the Matrix, Christianity in it's pure form is not religion but truth. Religion is designed to keep you in bondage.