So maybe you should specify your religious beleifs, what church you represent.. Please don't say 'Christian". Be specific. There are religions who beleive Moses was the true Jesus, or people who mistake e two. If you want people to listen, you need to say where it is you are coming from ! Thanks
It was my understanding that the killing of males was the story of Moses. Not Jesus, who was born in a manger. They put baby Moses in a basket and floated him down the River Nile ... so before you go any further, please explain this ! Moses is the one who had those tablets of ten commandemnts
NUMBERS 21:4 And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way. 5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. 6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
Only three wise men from the East followed the star to seek the Messiah. They are the only ones who saw the newborn King.
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
maybe you can help me out. One thing that has always puzzled me about christs life.
He is born under a bright star heralding his arrival, he is visited by 3 kings, and then what ?
He shows up in jerusalem 30 years later with about 15 followers ? I may be mistaken (probably am), but how do you go from savior to unknown so quickly ?
I only ask because you seem to know your stuff, and most people can't really answer this for me
Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. 3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. 5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, 6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
my guess is all the worlds other religions are part of satans plan to deceive us, and only true believers in christ will survive the imminent disaster....
BTW if you're gonna bring scripture be prepared to back it up, I'll be waiting and anticipating a good discussion if this is original.
Originally posted by Lexion
Mods, can this get moved to the Religious Conspiracy forum ?
Just a thought,
Jeremiah 10:1 Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says the Lord: Do not learn the way of the nations, or be dismayed at the signs of the heavens; for the nations are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are false: a tree from the forest is cut down, and worked with an ax by the hands of an artisan; 4 people deck it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. 5 Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk.
Semiramis established a false Messiah or anti-Christ doctrine which was adopted subsequently by many pagan religions. She claimed that a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolised the springing forth unto new life of the dead Nimrod. On each anniversary of his birth, she claimed, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. 25 December was the birthday of Nimrod.
Originally posted by DaVillen
Sun Matrix: If we are in a Matrix then how do we get out of it and see the truth? Do we have to die to see it?
Originally posted by sparkyloveandlight
I believe that we live in matrix type scenario. A computer programme with infinite variables. How we decide to use those variables is not always in our control. We are manipulated in believing certain things like religion which do nothing but cause violence, wars and friction as well as entrapment. Religions were made to help control the masses. There are over 10 different religions which help to control certain segments of society to help break it down thus the channels of communication are a lot smaller and efficient. If i had to command 1000 people i couldnt get whatever message accross to them as efiicently as i could if that 1000 was broken into groups of 10, each with an assistant commander. So i would only have to get my message accross clearly to my 10 assistant commanders who would then relay to the 100 in their respective groups.
You are correct in saying we live in the matrix but you are wrong about Jesus and Satan and religion for that matter. Religion was created to make suckers like me and you believe that we werent in control of our lives and that we had to obey and follow the rules set with our desired faith or face severe consequences. The bible has been re-written so many times i doubt if half of what is in it is true.