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I used to be a 'true believer,' but since some unexpected, unprecedented, and totally unbelievable, events in my recent past--I've become an 'experiencer.' I'll tell you this--my imagination could never have come close to the reality I now know. The human mind truly cannot conceive of the unconceivable until it is made possible by a higher power of Mind.
Originally posted by tasteslikethunder
just a question for all those true believers, or non believers with imaginations.
I'm sure my input could not be considered any sort of 'mainstream' theory--but the theories that are most widely accepted are based upon an erroneous foundation--which is physical reality. What is to come is a spiritual reality--true reality--perhaps materiality will still play a part, but it will no longer be the 'king.' The spiritual consciousness will be the predominant consciousness. But for now, the world at large cannot see beyond the present reality. So there is little understanding of why a literal physical return of the man Jesus is not in the works. The resurrection we look forward to is that of our spirit, not our body. Resurrecting dead bodies is more like voodoo than miracle. It's rather a creepy image in my mind when I ponder it. Something out of a Rob Zombie movie--with zombies emerging worldwide to follow an animated corpse.
in the real world, lets say tomorrow...how would jesus "come back." ? what is the theory on this?
No doubt. It would be an awesome sight, though, if it were. I used to think that very thing.
in real terms. obviously a bearded man in white robes riding down on galloping gold horses in a bolt of white light isnt really plausable.
so how then? how would we expect him to show himself, if that is infact what you believe, or imagine.
Outside source: KJV, public domain
(2 Thessalonians 1:7 KJV) And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
(2 Thessalonians 1:10 KJV) When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
Originally posted by Muscle D
Hey queenannie38, please read Mark 4:17, as this seems to be written about you.
First there will be a rapture,
the rest will be cast into the Lake of Fire.
Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Originally posted by andy1033
that person life will be taken away from them, as soon as there is any hint at all, there is such a person in this world.
Originally posted by shantyman
I hope you are sitting down, Queenie, but I agree with you that we need to grow up spiritually. I have no idea what soured you to the church, but we are all not bad folk.
Invectives are usually sensible to the inveigher...so I guess that's understandable.
When you aren't spouting invective, you make a lot of sense.
Once again, I like your posts that are rooted in substance much more thoroughly.
63 But Jesus held his peace. The high priest answered him, "I adjure you by the living God, that you tell us whether you are the Christ, the Son of God."
64 Jesus said to him, "You have said it. Nevertheless, I tell you, after this you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of the sky."
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
Originally posted by toolman
I imagine Hell would be exposed to the presence of God, and then removed from that presense.
Dont need fire and brimstone, lakes of burning sulphur or knashing of teeth. It would be enough to know god and then forever banned. How does Christ return...anyway he chooses i think.