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posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 11:32 AM
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Quotes from:
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"I am not really buying this whole thing, Snopes practically debunks the whole thing."


If you call a one-sided debate, lacking counter-argument, "debunking"? That's not how Skeptics normally do things.


We do'nt have to take these things as conspiracies but oddities and irony. I am not saying there is a big conspiracy Im saying its ironic and funny at times these things happen... one does not have to agree with anything but every view has a point."


But that's how many skeptics have chosen to discuss this issue. They equate every question and every person who questions, in the worst case scenerio... Perhaps they're slightly paranoid about this issue?


"Odd.. could easily be deliberate."


Exactly.


Interesting that "NYC" in the other font makes "Eye love New York". That can't just be a coincidence."


Because in all likelihood, it wasn't.


So..after seeing Snopes debunking the entire premise..."


If you call a one-sided debate lacking counter-argument "debunking"?

I'd dare say it was nearer to mathematically impossible that anything meaningful could have came out of Wingdings.

Yet, hyperbole insists THOUSANDS of possibilities.



Challenge to Skeptics. I'll pay a dollar to anyone who can find any combo like unto NYC.

Rules of the game:
www.edwardtbabinski.us...



[edit on 21-1-2006 by skeptical_123]




posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 11:54 AM
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Can fonts like Marlett, Wingdings 3, or MS Outlook be used?
Or simply Wingdings.

Just an idea, try your initials.

NOTE:uppercace and lower cace are different


[edit on 21/1/06 by The Surrealist]



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:00 PM
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NYC???
Microsoft Windings?
Nahhhhhh....the Dept of Justice (justus) doesn't own Microsoft

Skull and Bones?
Pirates
Crescent Moon and Star (Islam) (Shriners) (Oil)
Thumbs up (New World Order is a go,,,I repeat,,,"The New World Order is a GO!


silly conspirators, they are almost as humorous as the theorists



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by magnito_student

silly conspirators, they are almost as humorous as the theorists


yup. dadburn conspiratisizing lunatic fringe

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Integration of the world's culture, economy, and infrastructure driven by the lowering of political barriers to transnational trade and investment, and by the rapid proliferation of communication and information technologies. The term is often used in reference to the substantial impact of free-market forces on local, regional and national economies.
Source: www.pbs.org...

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posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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Douse Webdings have any previously created intent of meaning to there symbols? Or just people saying, 'that looks cool, lets use it!'



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:30 PM
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Try... *NWO* uppercase,

As you can see it dousnt seem to post.

*666HELLDEVIL*...
Am I trying to hard?

It makes sence though... TIME, DOWNLEFT, =(=(, etc

*JESUS* works and makes sence.



[edit on 21/1/06 by The Surrealist]



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by The Surrealist
Can fonts like Marlett, Wingdings 3, or MS Outlook be used?
Or simply Wingdings.

[edit on 21/1/06 by The Surrealist]


Nope. Just wingdings. The skeptics have implied mathematical probabilities suggesting thousands of coincidences, so surely some meaningful combos already exist? It's been over a decade, somebody should have discovered some by this time.

[edit on 21-1-2006 by skeptical_123]



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:45 PM
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I'm not sure if it's just coincidence, but...

Who uses wingdings anyway?
Why the symbols that they've chosen?



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by The Surrealist

*666HELLDEVIL*...
Am I trying to hard?
[edit on 21/1/06 by The Surrealist]


Nope.



Revelation! 666 is not the number of the beast (it's a devilish 616)
By Tom Anderson

A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616.

The new fragment from the Book of Revelation, written in ancient Greek and dating from the late third century, is part of a hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps outside Oxyrhynchus in Egypt. Now a team of expert classicists, using new photographic techniques, are finally deciphering the original writing.

Professor David Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original. He said: "This is an example of gematria, where numbers are based on the numerical values of letters in people's names. Early Christians would use numbers to hide the identity of people who they were attacking: 616 refers to the Emperor Caligula."

The Book of Revelation is traditionally considered to be written by John, a disciple of Jesus; it identifies 666 as the mark of the Antichrist. In America, the fundamentalist Christian right often use the number in sermons about the coming Apocalypse.

They and satanists responded coolly to the new "Revelation". Peter Gilmore, High Priest of the Church of Satan, based in New York, said: "By using 666 we're using something that the Christians fear. Mind you, if they do switch to 616 being the number of the beast then we'll start using that."
news.independent.co.uk...



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by The Surrealist
Try... *NWO* uppercase,

As you can see it dousnt seem to post.

*666HELLDEVIL*...
Am I trying to hard?

It makes sence though... TIME, DOWNLEFT, =(=(, etc

*JESUS* works and makes sence.



[edit on 21/1/06 by The Surrealist]





you were saying?



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 02:29 PM
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Ahhh! What about 'Webdings' font? ...

www.snopes.com...



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by One_Love_One_GOD

you were saying?


Well sir, that really makes lots of sense.

(1) Death to (2) Celtic Crosses (3) Surrender.
Sorry, no dollar.



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by The Surrealist
Ahhh! What about 'Webdings' font? ...
www.snopes.com...


Wingdings and NYC is my only interest, and whether or not that specific message was proven beyond all reasonable doubt, a mere coincidence.

Like Poltergeists, Sasquatsch and Extra-Terrestrials, I have not seen any hard evidence.

Even the fellow I have been debating with for months on NYC, agreed "Yes, someone could design an alphabet to make it appear a random coincidence." That's how hoaxes are perpetrated.

Yet, he believes it was coincidence and I believe it could have been done on purpose. We both finally agreed, it is "merely indeterminate".

Doubt

I think we ought always to entertain our opinions with some measure of doubt. I shouldn’t wish people dogmatically to believe any philosophy, not even mine. — Bertrand Russell

To have doubted one’s own first principles is the mark of a civilized man. — Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. — Descartes

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. — Bertrand Russell

The best lack all convictions, while the worst are full of passionate intensity. – Yeats

Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. — Voltaire

Doubt ‘til thou canst doubt no more … doubt is thought and thought is life. Systems which end doubt are devices for drugging thought. — Albert Guerard

[edit on 21-1-2006 by skeptical_123]



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by skeptical_123

Originally posted by One_Love_One_GOD

you were saying?


Well sir, that really makes lots of sense.

(1) Death to (2) Celtic Crosses (3) Surrender.
Sorry, no dollar.



Lol I didn't say It meant anything inperticuler I was just stating that it didn't just come up with squares however you could also interpretate it as:



(1) Skull&Bones (2) One Religion (3) All Nations Combined (as In surrendered to one order)

But does It really matter at the end of the day lol, no not really.



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by One_Love_One_GOD

Lol I didn't say It meant anything inperticuler I was just stating that it didn't just come up with squares however you could also interpretate it as:
(1) Skull&Bones (2) One Religion (3) All Nations Combined (as In surrendered to one order)

But does It really matter at the end of the day lol, no not really.



Some of us, just don't get that. I guess that's what kept "NWO" from making the headlines.

Meanwhile, NYC is loaded with lots of interesting stuff that's gotta make you stop and think at the end of the day. Interesting NYC brings up the Muslims too, when "Jew and Muslim" is what constitutes true anti-semiticism. Both these guys have been put through a lot of hardship together. Now they're killing each other over in the Mideast. I've heard lots of anti-Muslim sentiments here in the U.S., like "who cares" if the Muslims are blown to kingdom come with Bush's bombs. I've even heard said of their religion with all disrespect, "Allah is Satan". That's anti-semitic Republican hype. Actually, the Koran derived from the Hebrew Bible, the same as did the New Testament. Ironic.

"The crusades were a means of uniting much of Europe in the name of Christianity. Crusaders, caught up in their sense of righteousness, brutally attacked the Church's enemies. Pope Gregory VII had declared, "Cursed be the man who holds back his sword from shedding blood." The chronicler, Raymond of Aguilers, described the scene when a band of crusaders massacred both Muslims and Jews in Jerusalem in 1099:

Wonderful things were to be seen. Numbers of the Saracens were beheaded... Others were shot with arrows, or forced to jump from the towers; others were tortured for several days, then burned with flames. In the streets were seen piles of heads and hands and feet. One rode about everywhere amid the corpses of men and horses. In the temple of Solomon, the horses waded in the blood up to their knees, nay, up to the bridle. It was a just and marvelous judgment of God, that this place should be filled with the blood of unbelievers.

Nicetas Choniates, a Byzantine chronicler, wrote: "Even the Saracens (the Muslims) are merciful and kind compared to these men who bear the cross of Christ on their shoulders."
-page 65, The Dark Side of Christian History, Helen Ellerbe

"European Jews were often the first victims of a crusade. But Christian persecution of Jews continued long after the crusades ended. Jews became the scapegoats for many problems that the Church could not fix. When, for example, the black death, the bubonic plague, struck in the fourteenth century, the Church explained that Jews were to blame and prompted attacks upon them. A whole folklore developed claiming the Jews kidnapped and ate children in Jewish rituals of cannibalism, and that Jews stole and profaned the blessed Christian sacraments."
-Excerpts from page 68-70, The Dark Side of Christian History, Helen Ellerbe

The Inquisition often targeted members of other religions as it did heretics. The Inquisition now lent its authority to the long-standing Christian persecution of Jews. Particularly during the Christian Holy Week of the Passion, Christians frequently rioted against Jews or refused to sell them food in hopes of starving them. At the beginning of the thirteenth century, Pope Innocent III required Jews to wear distinctive clothing. In 1391 the Archdeacon of Seville launched a "Holy War against the Jews." By 1492 the Inquisition in Spain had become so virulent in its persecution of Jews that it demanded either their conversion to Christianity or their expulsion. Muslims experienced little better. Not surprisingly, Islamic countries offered far safer sanctuaries to escaping Jews than Christian lands.
-Excerpts from page 83-86, The Dark Side of Christian History, Helen Ellerbe

Wingdings got people talking and thinking. Maybe that in itself would be a purposeful enough motive? Who knows?



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by mashup
Who uses wingdings anyway?


Oddly enough I noticed a co-worker sent a private email to someone from the company email (though why people don't just access their own personal email for personal stuff at work is beyond me).

But, my question is, is wingdings actually usable in terms of the person receiving it can translate it?

What's that all about?

Edit: Sorry if that is a bit off topic, just responding to the question asked.

[edit on 1/21/2006 by Relentless]



posted on Jan, 21 2006 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by Relentless

Originally posted by mashup
Who uses wingdings anyway?


Oddly enough I noticed a co-worker sent a private email to someone from the company email (though why people don't just access their own personal email for personal stuff at work is beyond me).

But, my question is, is wingdings actually usable in terms of the person receiving it can translate it?

What's that all about?

Edit: Sorry if that is a bit off topic, just responding to the question asked.


I hope I understand the question correctly.
Who uses Wingdings?
Is wingdings actually usable in terms of the person receiving it can translate it?
Microsoft evidently feels quite a few people use Wingdings. The font pack comes standard as a default font with most computers that I know of. If an email is sent formatted in Wingdings, and received on a computer with Wingdings installed, the text should display in the wingdings font. (Unless you're using plain text format.) Otherwise the email would display in your default font.

They also incorporated many of the Wingdings icons in HTML.
Some familiar characters in the list. (inserted into a web page).
& #9985;
& #9986;
& #9987;
& #9988;
& #9990;
& #9991;
& #9992;

& #10102;
& #10103;
& #10104;
& #10105;
& #10106;
& #10107;
& #10108;
& #10109;
& #10110;
& #10111;
& #10112;
& #10113;
& #10114;
& #10115;
& #10116;
& #10117;
& #10118;
& #10119;
& #10120;
& #10121;
HTML Character Entities Chart
artscape.edwardtbabinski.us...

[edit on 21-1-2006 by skeptical_123]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 02:06 AM
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Hi.

First, please read the first 5 or so posts to this topic.
After that, please click here: xs64.xs.to...

Edit to remove large image file, replaced with link.

[edit on 22-1-2006 by SimonGray]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 04:48 PM
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"At the simplest level, Wingdings and Webdings are much like an alphabet of characters and provide thousands of potential combinations from which a person ..."

Microsoft has employed an Argument Fallacy known as Non Sequitur to explain why NYC "Death to Jews is Okay" cannot mean what it literally means. Non Sequitur, as in "Does Not Follow".

An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.
Source: dictionary.reference.com...


chibidai_rrr wrote: Q3 (Quarter 3) The month of September is in the third quarter of the year.
USA (Symbols imply jesus bled for peace [between us and God])
NYC (Death to jews is great/Death to choose is great-I dunno which) I give it two thumbs down.)


Unlike NYC (famed for being dubbed Jew York City, and its Jewish population) --there's a world renown relationship to begin between Jews and New York, long before wingdings was created. It's why the news spread throughout the world when "the" Jewish icon (star of David) was associated with NYC, implying Death to Jews. Okay?

That's One Bright Lady or God ( perhaps, that's one in the same)
You will find nothing in Wingdings remotely close to the NYC combo. I challenge people to try finding something. The history of anti-Jewish sentiments goes back centuries, to the time of Constantine and Christ. And further impacting the irony of an anti-semitic relationship, with the German Windows system installed on the same computer, Wingdings renders "Death to Islam", or "Death to Muslims" or, "Death to Turkish". If you're familiar with the social situation in Germany, --the Turkish are considered a bigger problem to nazis in Germany, than the Jews. German racists have created video games with the sole object, "how to kill Turkish". Well, let's be fair and say, nazis hate the Turkish and the Jew about equally. So, it was extreme coincidence, the Islam symbol was specifically on the German version. To me, that's a little too much "simple coincidence" to swallow. Maybe that's what our font designer wants to convey to people; a hysterical fuss was made when everyone believed Jews were targeted . . . but when the Muslims are the target of anti-semticism. . . not a peep, only indifference. Anti-semiticism is alive and well, including those who fail to realize they're anti-semitic. If this was our font designer's intent, she deserves to be applauded.

Anti-semitism has its origins in all people of semitic descent.

Se·mit·ic Pronunciation Key (s-mtk)
adj.
Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.
Source: dictionary.reference.com...


Further, I do not see how a piece of paper can be equated with a skyscraper.
Even further, September 11 was an incident that took place long after Wingdings was created. Nobody was psychic to foresee planes crashing into towers, including Bigelow and Holmes, the font designer(s). Highly doubtful she's privy to any terrorist plots. For that, I discount any notion a plane or paper means anything.

In my opinion the only one which might *could* be taken to mean something (and I only mean this, in the distant sense), would be USA. And what does it supposedly coincide with? I am disagreement it means anything because, the drop would more likely mean oil, by default the drop would display in black text format, and I've never seen a drop of blood look fat and chunky like Wingdings' drop -oil, maybe, it's heavy and can make a nice fat drop. If I were asked what this string of icons mean, and told it is suppose to mean something?
I'd say (1) cross=Conservative Right, (2) Drop=Oil (3) 2 fingers up=Peace.

But, that's not the case at all. Lots of war has happened and is still happening over oil.

Is Bigelow or Holmes (designer of wingdings), Conservative Christian Right?

The Cross and Christianity

"We Christians neither want nor worship crosses as the pagans do."

- Minucius Felix (Christian author, circa 200 A.D.)

____________________________

"It was only in the third century (after 400 A.D.) that Christian communities increasingly used "covert" crosses, which have survived in the murals of the catacombs and on tombstones. They might be an anchor with a crosspiece, a ship with a mast and yard, a human figure with outstretched arms, or a juxtaposition of the initials of the name Jesus or Christ (in Greek or Latin) to produce a cross-like shape. It was in the fourth century that the cross became an openly Christian symbol. By that time crucifixion as a method of state execution had been abolished and the cross ceased to have its former cruel and negative associations. Several hundred years later it was deemed a terrific symbol to use to ward off vampires, demons, etc."

- E.T.B.

____________________________

A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he's gonna wanna see a cross? Maybe that's why he hasn't shown up yet. "#! They're still wearing crosses. When they start wearing fishes I'll go back, this is ridiculous. They've entirely missed the meaning of this thing." It's like going up to one of the Kennedy clan with a rifle pendant on. "Just thinking of President Kennedy. We love him."

- Bill Hicks, Rant in E-minor, CD

____________________________

If Christ was executed today I bet Christians would wear little electric chairs round their necks.

- Dick Gregory

____________________________

CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND THE NON SEQUITUR ARGUMENT FALLACY

How the illogical reasoning of non sequitur works: Take edible mushrooms, and line them up in a row. Place one poison mushroom in the line. Non Sequitur would tell us, "Since all the other mushrooms are edible, therefore the poison mushroom must be edible too."

There may be other remote combinations in Wingdings, however, that still fails to substantiate the claim "NYC was merely just coincidence".

Also, I don't think its wise to get political news from Wingdings, better to tune into NBC or CNN. Though half the stuff you hear on network television isn't reliable either.

CONCLUSION: NYC stands alone from all the other examples.

n
1: a reply that has no relevance to what preceded it
2: (logic) a conclusion that does not follow from the premises

[Latin nn sequitur, it does not follow : nn, not + sequitur, third person
sing. present tense of sequ, to follow.]

An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.
A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
dictionary.reference.com...

MORE ON NON SEQUITUR
Some strings in Wingdings can be put together, but they mean nothing really, even if some remote meaning can be applied to them. This only proves the icon has some meaning. i.e., the cross symbolizing Christianity, and thousands of things can be said of Christianity, of course.

However, this argument fallacy would be the same as saying,
since the combinations
1) dsoidqih
2) adpijasj
3) aosdiqw
mean nothing, therefore
1) clock
2) book
3) boat
mean nothing also.
Such "evidence" is non sequitur.

The meaningless combos in Wingdings are not evidence proving NYC was a mere coincidence. NYC has a purposeful meaning, and could have been manipulated on purpose by a single individual, as in hoax or prank.

Non Sequitur Part II

Because NYC obviously means something, they (skeptics who mock, and conspirators, alike) --in their mind, every combination they throw together from Wingdings, has to have some wild interpretation forced onto it.

It would be like saying:
1) dsoidqih
2) adpijasj
3) aosdiqw

Supposedly means,
1) the soiled key
2) add pajamas I ask
3) ask D.Q.

But that's not what the random alpha strings mean.
They mean nothing.

Why is such a simple subject (NYC), clouded with argument fallacies?

Rock and a Hard Place

No matter what Argument Fallacies are thrown into the bonfires of human stupidity, the designer of wingdings has found herself caught between a rock and a hard place.

NYC literally interprets to "Death to Jews is Okay", and there's no way around it. No matter how they may cloud the issue with clever argument fallacies, NYC still renders "Death to Jews is Okay", and "Death to Muslims is Okay". With all things considered, just seems more of a statement on Anti-Semiticism in general.

If the font designer intended to render NYC as an anti-semitic combination, she succeeded to do so. However, if it were actual coincidence and the font designer was shocked as the rest of the world, then she's found herself where thousands of innocent men have been, accused of crimes they did not commit because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, yet they were hanged, electrocuted, firing squad, or spent their life behind bars -innocent, yet how could anyone know, there was no way to "prove" innocence. Of course, much of that is changing now, with DNA rendering conclusive evidence. However, until science develops a flawless method to read minds, people will go on suspecting Holmes purposely embedded that anti-semitic message inside wingdings... and with good cause.

[edit on 22-1-2006 by skeptical_123]


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But I'm not copying anyone else's work, and I linked the page to www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 22-1-2006 by skeptical_123]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 10:30 PM
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Microsoft has employed an Argument Fallacy known as Non Sequitur to explain why NYC "Death to Jews is Okay" cannot mean what it literally means. Non Sequitur, as in "Does Not Follow".

An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.
Source: dictionary.reference.com...


chibidai_rrr wrote: Q3 (Quarter 3) The month of September is in the third quarter of the year.
USA (Symbols imply jesus bled for peace [between us and God])
NYC (Death to jews is great/Death to choose is great-I dunno which) I give it two thumbs down.)


Unlike NYC (famed for being dubbed Jew York City, and its Jewish population) --there's a world renown relationship to begin between Jews and New York, long before wingdings was created. It's why the news spread throughout the world when "the" Jewish icon (star of David) was associated with NYC, implying Death to Jews. Okay?

\If you are going to cut and paste stuff from other websites, you must make it clear that you are copying someone's elses work and give them credit. THe best way to do this is to use the 'ex' code. That is, type, in square brackets the letters 'ex' at the start of the copied portion, and '/ex' at the end, and include a citation, like a url.


wingdings, webdings, or whatever, are just symbols connected to letters. There is no a trillion to one chance that there is a something that can be considered a message in them.

Also, it makes no sense that NYC comes out as 'death to muslims is good' in the german system, or, as the original author variably interprets it, 'death to the turk immigrants is good', NYC has nothing to do with 'german hatred of turks', and its only connected to the jews because there are a bunch of jews in it.

If a person wanted to make a code that said 'death to the jews is good', then they'd make it from the words 'zion' or 'jew', not NYC.


www.edwardtbabinski.us...
it was extreme coincidence, the Islam symbol was specifically on the German version. To me, that's a little too much "simple coincidence" to swallow

It shows how its coincidental and how a person can make up reasons for mere accident. The nazis especially hate the state of turkey? More than the jews? Its nonsense, he's attaching significance to accident.


www.edwardtbabinski.us...
Some strings in Wingdings can be put together, but they mean nothing really, even if some remote meaning can be applied to them

Then the entire argument for it being a conspiracy falls apart.


www.edwardtbabinski.us...
NYC literally interprets to "Death to Jews is Okay", and there's no way around it.

No, it doesn't. Abstract symbols have no literal meaning, literally.
However, I agree anyone looking at that would generally read it as 'death to jews is ok' (lots of countries take the thumbs up sign to mean pederatsy, buts thats more or less irrelevant).
BUT, its meaningless as a code. And code involving a skull, thumbs up, and a start of david is going to be able to be put together that way, the mere inclusion of those symbols is meaningless, its only what the coded phrase states that is meaningul. NYC isn't a very strong coded phrase related to 'killing the jews is good'. What do the people that made the font have to do with NYC? And, really, besides there being 'a lot of jews' in NYC, whats the jewish connection? There are lots of jews in miami, there are a lot of jews in....israel, there are large populations of jews in many places. NYC isn't especially connected to the jews, and with-out that connection, its meaningless. If JEW in this font was the sequence, then that might be interesting.


This article makes a good point

www.sincity.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Penn Jillette
With the only slightly limited freedom of speech in this country, Hitler Jr. could just state his/her sick message outright on "Geraldo" - just like everyone else.


So this 'code' doesn't even exist, and there's no reason for a conspiracy to have created it in the first place.



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