Originally posted by skeptical_123
Hieroglyphs mean nothing?
An Egyptlogist would differ.
I doubt it. They'd agree that the heiroglyps were used by the egyptian to represent certian things, but in and of themselves they are meaningless.
Witness the fact that we couldn't read them until we had the Rosettea Stone. The symbols themselves only have the meaning that a person grants
If these abstract symbols have no meaning, then why did Microsoft spend millions distributing them for people to not use? Logically, that's a
waste of money.
In that particular system, each symbol 'means' the letter it is assigned to. Press the letter 'N' on the keyboard in that font and you get the
skull and bones. It doesn't have any esoteric meaning though, it doesn't even 'mean' death technically, it simply 'means' 'N'. Really though,
it means nothing, its a random symbol assigned to a key on a keyboard.
Also, just try explaining to the DMV there are no "literal meanings" applied to icons, shapes and symbols, next time you do your written test.
A red octagon has no literal meaning. You can't show it to a martian and he will stop walking. You can't show it to a 10th century inhabitant of
verona and he will stop in the street. It has no literal meaning. Its a symbol that we, current and mostly, recognize as a symbol for 'STOP'.
When you're asked to identify what an red octagon means... it can make the difference between passing the test, or failing. Abstract symbols do mean
Ask the ADL or JDL what the Hakenkreuz (also known as, "sun cross", "hooked cross", "good luck symbol" and "swastika") means to them?
"Couldn't possibly mean anything literal". Afterall, it's just another "abstract symbol", isn't it?
Precisely. Flash a swastika in a jewish community, and it 'means' something entirely different than if you flash it at an avram outside of dehli.
The swastika has no literal meaning.
Written language itself is and originated from abstract symbols.
Yes, I am aware of this. Notice that the script at harrapa is a set of abstract symbols that are to this day completely unreadable. They have no
While we could argue that all letters and words are more or less, then, abstract symbols, that might lead us to be extreme and say that 'regular
words' have no literal meaning either, but that's probably taking it to absurdity. We could even say that its absurd to state that heiroglyphs and
the harrappan script, once decoded, have no literal meaning too.
However, with the wingdings and webdings, its quite different. They are just symbols associated with keystrokes. If we decipher them, certianly as a
set, then the set "Skull.StarofDavid.Thumbsup" literally
, decod-edly, means NYC, and nothing else.
The entire idea behind that wingdingwebding conspiracy is that there is no code in the whole set, but rather that the person who made wingdings wanted
to say 'its good to kill jews', and that he therefore made NYC, a 'jewish city' (but, again, the
iconic jewish city??) 'spell' out that
And, again, as far as meaning, there is no literal meaning to those symbols. A skull and bones can mean death, or it can mean poison, hazzard, or, in
esoteric symstems, mortality and humanity. A star of david could mean 'the jews', or it could mean judaism, or YWH, or the clan of david, and the
thumbs up, sure, in america it means 'good' or 'that is good', but in other parts of the world it means something entirely different.
I'd agree that the majority of people seeing these symbols would probably recognize it as "dead jews is good", but, again, why the association with
the keys N Y and C? It makes little sense. Any set with those symbols can display them in that order, so it all turns on how significant the NYC
keystroke is. Its simply not significant. There are jews in almost every city in the west, not just NYC, which is rarely abbreviated as NYC and more
often just NY or NY NY. The fact that its 'dead muslims good' in germany shows that its nonsense, NYC has nothing to do with native german
antagonism with immigrant turks.
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