Iraqi sniper filming his shots against the Coalition.

Originally posted by Lysergic
ooooo

/golf clap

Seriously this is all they got? The best they can do? So this is what it's like to realiise you've been crushed, youre only hope is a half assed sniper


let me get af ew things right
it's suppose to be

BOOOOOOOOM

HEADSHOT

BOOOOOM

HEADSHOT

Jarhead falls dead.

Gunny: Platoon, move out and search. Find this F@#%er and kill him.

Or

Jarhead falls to the ground wounded and screaming.

Fellow jarheads must now attend to wounded man, taking five men out of the fight instead of one.

You know why most landmines don't kill?

If the Iraqis have been crushed why are you losing men daily and the shrub has to keep appearing on telly to tell you America "is firm in its resolve" and "will stay the course" and other like statments designed to shore up rapidly dwindling public opinion.

They aren't crushed, they know they just need to bide their time, you'll go home without completing the job and then they can bring on civil war.

You did it once before, what makes this one different?

[edit on 30-11-2005 by HowlrunnerIV]

Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
You did it once before, what makes this one different?
[edit on 30-11-2005 by HowlrunnerIV]

Seriously, people need to stop comparing Iraq to Vietnam.

'Nam had FIFTY THOUSAND DEAD in the MOST HOSTILE DOMETIC STATE FOR THE US IN IT'S HISTORY.

Seriously, how many Americans are spitting on our soldiers when they get back? How many Americans hate our military and consider it evil?

Frankly, the Iraqi insurgents need to kill another 48,000 of our troops before you can even begin to consider that this is even a hair close to 'nam. This is one of the most succesfull military occupations in history, and it is laughable that anyone says otherwise. The US military expected to lose TEN THOUSAND soldiers assualting Bagdad alone. We have lost 1/5 of that in what - three total years.

Never mind the fact that the US never ONCE invaded the north in Vietnam - in fact, it was a completely different type of war - a defensive one.

I am not going to waste any more time on this, but rest assured, the US will have troops in Iraq for the next 25 years AT LEAST.

Originally posted by killirl
Here is a video of marines lighting up enemy snipers in afghanistan.

Click Here to View

And all the people of Al Qaim, Al Najaf, Nassiryah and Sadr City.

Praises to the city defenders.

The same defenders that knowingly target iraq children by booby trapping teddy bears?

news.yahoo.com...

[edit on 26-11-2005 by killirl]

Sorry but your american lies dont work here.... Those arnt US snipers there somebody shooting rodents. Just because your loved dictator can get away with propaganda a child could see thru, doesnt mean it will work on here.

And if you want to talk about children killers, you could mention the program the US has to always bring sweets with them to entice children on combat missions, your cowardly soldiers feel safer knowing the honourable resistance wont kill children as easy as the US.

[edit on 30-11-2005 by HiddenReality]

Originally posted by HiddenReality
Sorry but your american lies dont work here.... Those arnt US snipers there somebody shooting rodents. Just because your loved dictator can get away with propaganda a child could see thru, doesnt mean it will work on here.

And if you want to talk about children killers, you could mention the program the US has to always bring sweets with them to entice children on combat missions, your cowardly soldiers feel safer knowing the honourable resistance wont kill children as easy as the US.

[edit on 30-11-2005 by HiddenReality]

The "resistance" is hated almost universaly by the Iraqi people beause they do nothing but kill Iraqis and destroy thier assets. The resistance is a facist movement which will rightfully be obliterated as is the will of the IRAQI people.

BTW, US soldiers bring things to the Iraqi people - and children in particular - because most of them are good people. They understand that even on their small salary, they have more then the average Iraqi, and it is foremost among US atributes to be generous, caring, and helpfull. Deny it all you want, but Americans are among -if not THE - most giving people in the world.

These soldiers no more want to kill a person then you, me, or any one else. All they want is to get Iraq to the point where they can come home and leave the nation in a free democracy where the Iraqis can flurish as an example to the middle east.

Of course, I'm sure you really hate things like free speech, equality, and freedom of religion. You would much rather Iraq be dominated by some barbaric dictator who makes his Olympic soccer team kick concrete balls bare foot when they lose. Or one where you re beheaded if you are not a strict muslim. Or government that attempts genocide.

Honestly, you are posting out right lies about how US soldiers operate, and you should be banned from ATS for doing so. You are the lowest of the low in my book.

Originally posted by HiddenReality

And if you want to talk about children killers, you could mention the program the US has to always bring sweets with them to entice children on combat missions, your cowardly soldiers feel safer knowing the honourable resistance wont kill children as easy as the US.

[edit on 30-11-2005 by HiddenReality]

We give less fortunate children MREs, candy, and teddy bears in attempt to win the hearts of the iraqi people. The insurgency booby traps these gifts to target children for the soul purpose of hate generation towards Americans.

The difference between us and terrorists is that terrorists will intentionally target women and children while we go out of our way not to.

Where did you get the disinfo about American troops enticing children into combat? Aljazeera.net?

The Iraqi snipper is actually a Mossad agent sent in to agitate the situation, in order to make Americans more anti-Arab, I'll be posting other "DOCUMENTED" Mossad attacks against the U.S. to further thieranti-Arab Land-Grab, tactic : judicial-inc.biz...

Originally posted by American Mad Man


The "resistance" is hated almost universaly by the Iraqi people beause they do nothing but kill Iraqis and destroy thier assets. The resistance is a facist movement which will rightfully be obliterated as is the will of the IRAQI people.

That is total propaganda, no resistance especially one capable of killing over 2000 US soldiers can survive and operate without the support of a large percent of the population. the US/UK targets a lot of civilians in covert ops trying to cause civil unrest, the UK were caught in the act but people like you just denied it and made excuses for there actions.

I agree with you there are some US soldiers who are there thinking they are doing a right and just thing, but the majority are in it for the profit, and being recruited from the lower class, there uneducated and easily fooled. When your goverment makes up lies about the resistance booby trapping toys and killing civilians, its easy to make these not so smart people hate the resistance.

Originally posted by American Mad Man

Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
You did it once before, what makes this one different?
[edit on 30-11-2005 by HowlrunnerIV]

Seriously, people need to stop comparing Iraq to Vietnam.

'Nam had FIFTY THOUSAND DEAD in the MOST HOSTILE DOMETIC STATE FOR THE US IN IT'S HISTORY.

Seriously, how many Americans are spitting on our soldiers when they get back? How many Americans hate our military and consider it evil?

Frankly, the Iraqi insurgents need to kill another 48,000 of our troops before you can even begin to consider that this is even a hair close to 'nam. This is one of the most succesfull military occupations in history, and it is laughable that anyone says otherwise. The US military expected to lose TEN THOUSAND soldiers assualting Bagdad alone. We have lost 1/5 of that in what - three total years.

Never mind the fact that the US never ONCE invaded the north in Vietnam - in fact, it was a completely different type of war - a defensive one.

I am not going to waste any more time on this, but rest assured, the US will have troops in Iraq for the next 25 years AT LEAST.

So, the President is lying to the citizens when he says timetables are being drawn up to bring the soldiers home "soon"?

Yes, one was a jungle, the other is a desert. One had almost no natural resources for the US to lay claim to, the other is awash in oil. One was never a declared war, the other no longer has "major combat operations" (tell that to the Marines in Falluja).

What isn't defensive about walking around Iraqi towns and waiting to be shot at? If there were any brains in Washington they would have had the Brits on the phone telling them everything they learned in NI. Ever notice that until a couple of months ago Basra was the calmest city in Iraq, ever wonder why?

Politically one was deeply unpopular, politically the other now has over 60% saying it's a bad idea.

The Iraqi insurgents DO NOT need to kill another 48,000 US troopers. They just need a steady trickly of body bags and returning caskets to show up on CNN. They are waging a PR war more successfully than the Prez is.

The President's way out of this mess is to "train the Iraqis so they can fight the battle for themselves". Sounds a lot like "Vietnamisation" to me. And we all know how well that worked.

Given that you failed spectacularly and publicly in Vietnam, why shouldn't the Iraqis think it will happen again. Germany lost twice, why can't you?

This is a successful military occupation? Iraq is losing infrastructure faster now than they did during combat.

Germany was a successful occupation. Japan was a successful occupation.

Iraq is a shade more successful than the Russians in Afghanistan and many steps behind the current occupation of Afghanistan, which is nothing to write home about.

In fact, you're doing about as well as the Iraqis did in Kuwait, at least they got cars to take home.

Originally posted by HiddenReality

Originally posted by American Mad Man


The "resistance" is hated almost universaly by the Iraqi people beause they do nothing but kill Iraqis and destroy thier assets. The resistance is a facist movement which will rightfully be obliterated as is the will of the IRAQI people.

That is total propaganda, no resistance especially one capable of killing over 2000 US soldiers can survive and operate without the support of a large percent of the population. the US/UK targets a lot of civilians in covert ops trying to cause civil unrest, the UK were caught in the act but people like you just denied it and made excuses for there actions.

I agree with you there are some US soldiers who are there thinking they are doing a right and just thing, but the majority are in it for the profit, and being recruited from the lower class, there uneducated and easily fooled. When your goverment makes up lies about the resistance booby trapping toys and killing civilians, its easy to make these not so smart people hate the resistance.

The IRA could survive and operate without the support of a large percentage of the population. And just like the insurgents, the majority of their funding came from overseas.

Right, squaddies who want Christmas at home are going to deliberately and wilfully stoke up an agitated situation, thereby causing them to remain in harm's way, where they could die, even longer. Get a grip.

Profit? Do you have any idea how little US forces are paid? There are Marines whose families survive on welfare food stamps.

The profit goes to the contractors working for Halliburton, not the men and women in the uniform of their country.

As for the "lower classes", the Zarqarwis of this world ain't exactly Rhodes scholars, now are they? And US soldiers, uneducated 'though they might be, don't need the US government to lie to them for them to hate the resistance, they just see their dead mates, killed by the resistance. This ain't a letter campaign they're fighting against.

The reality is certainly hidden from some...

It may sound Vietnamization. But the terrorists and insurgents cant win. No doubt about. The difference is that they have not much popular support to take over and control Iraq as a whole. Remember that it wasnt the Vietcong that took over Saigon, it was the North Vietnamese Army as a conventional force that finally succeeded invading and taking over Saigon after failing to take over South Vietnam many times when American troops pushed them back. But they succeeded after American troops pulled out. But the insurgents and terrorists dont have a conventional force to take over the country against the Kurds and Shiites.

All of which is true. The insurgents are waiting for your public to "do a Vietnam" and take the soldiers home, then they can start a real civil war. Which no-one will win but which will reduce the country to Afghani levels of stone-age poverty.

Your tolerance for body bags is nowhere near 50,000 these days. You pulled out of Somalia after 18 men died. You can thank tv for that. You made some ground in '91 with Stormin' Norman's media briefings showing those gee-whiz smart bombs, but lost it all again by the time of Kosovo, thanks to Mogadishu.

Face it, "only" 2,000 dead and two thirds of the country want out and W is starting to sound like a (desperate) broken record. There is nothing new in his message and the people are clamouring for major change only a year after the election. They just aren't buying his message anymore.

Does any one have a translation to what is being said?

Also, if you listen to the high res video, in frame 7min 23 secs, the weapon can be heard very clearly. My best guess is that it could be a VSS or Vintorez. Listen to the action and even the shell case hitting concrete after it ejects.

They ought to just send the marines in full force through the area, then let the army clean up as they did in the first gulf war.

It it is a war zone, who trained them to stand out in the open, TRADOC should be ashamed.

I'm sure the ones that fired the shots in these videos are dead.
Are there more stupid enough to adopt this strategy?

I'm sure they are shooting from a car..one driver, one in the trunk..
OR from a Van
Very similar to the Two jerks from the US a couple of years ago.


[edit on 14-1-2006 by spacedoubt]

I dont know about that car bit so much, one video clearly is of the camera holder running. Not to mention the sound of the shell caseing don't sound like it is in a car when it falls to the ground.

cryptome.org has a hi rez video, also before I forget are those numbers near the end, those sposed to be koran numbers for different surah?

For example surah 5 part 6, 52 53 of pg 153.

The shell casing. open window?
OR open rear door, in the case of a Van..?

Certainly there is some footage that could be like the Malvo and John Allen Muhammad shootings. I'm not going to dispute that when I agree with you that it is possable.

Just not at 7 min 23 secs, the camcorder is being shot through the rifle scope, which is very distinctive of the VSS Vintorez site apiture.

Where did you find that vid. clip anyway?
Well look at the whole things like this:
You shoot them, so they shoot you. Welcome to war.
A snipers job is to demoralize people and that guy is doing it, like that one guy, eat lunch then die. A snipers job is not just to embody the "one shot one kill" but to be demoralizing, and getting wounded is demoralizing, when you would someone and not kill them it takes 2 people to get them out. So really he was doing a good job as far as that goes.

I got this one at ogrish but there is tons and I mean tons of propaganda clips floating around the net on these "Jihad" websites, from recorded IED attacks to suicide bombings

mod edit to remove quote of previous post

[edit on 14-1-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Yeah I know, shoot turn on the TV for one dose then turn on your comp for the next wave. Go outside and talk to people to get some to if you want. The point is being able to filter things.

Frame time # 8 min 02 secs, check out the recorder time stamp.

Looks like an american camera, looks like more than just US cell phones are being used.

Also notice almost all shots are from behind our troops lines. these guys are shooting us in the back.



[edit on 14/1/06 by NSA]