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Iraqi sniper filming his shots against the Coalition.

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posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 03:30 AM
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Not that I know, but I would guess it's not always the same sniper in each shot. Just an half-assed guess of course, rest assured that I'm NOT hanging around with insurgents to ask them.

Those snipers are nasty, after attacking they drop their weapon on the spot and they sneak into the crowd among other civees, then it's too late.

Some times they do get caught and killed. Other times only get injured, and even get medic, yup, as surprising as it may sound. I'm sure you all heard that story already, I'm referring to the US soldier who got shot and saved by his body armour, then he tracked down the sniper by his trail of blood, and administered first aid to the sniper. Remember that? Amazing isn't it.

(Wish I won't get bashed, knives are flying low in this thread. Just a neutral comment, ladies, I come in peace.)



xu

posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 04:50 AM
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I notices that he wounds his targets rather than killing them, even one of the shots was to the leg if Im not wrong. this could be considered both an upside or a downside depending on where you look at it. Im sure his talent is out of question since he "is" a sniper and have hours of experience with it and I dont think if someone is stepping into that scene with a sniper riffle doesnt know where to land his bullet consciously, if that was the case he would miss at least half of them. besides accuracy comes with experience which he has, so the point of him being a badshot and with that reason he is only able to wound his tagets, is not sound.

it doesnt differ in terms of outcome if he kills or wounds a soldier because, if he kills the soldier that soldier is out of the scene and if he wounds the soldier that soldier is also out of the scene shipped back to mainland. so maybe, Im saying " maybe " here the sniper is going for the wound only method. you may think about the deahtoll, why should he chose to wound instead of kill thus not raising the deathtoll then, well maybe he knows that the numbers could be tampered with.

reverse the situation if you lack the virtue of empathy:

the iraqis invaded the USA with a false claim of them posessing antimatter bombs and them being a threat to the world peace. and eventually and apparently they suceeded and installed a puppet government which would fight against the local insurgents ( American patriots in this case) under the name of USA Government. and one of the insurgents, say a boy from TX equips his sniper riffle and shoots the iraqi soldiers but not to kill just to wound, in this reverse situation would you prefer him to kill them raher than wound. well I actually would respect this desicion as Im sure the family and friends of the wounded also would.

choosing sides blinds so many people, and with the cost of just reasoning.



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 04:55 AM
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nvm

[edit on 12-11-2005 by shire19]



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dronetek
Ugh. That sentance reads like you are proud of the sniper.

Please delete this trash. I watched it and it made my blood boil.

Not to mention I have a brother who is about to go to Iraq in a brand new unit, "The walking dead".

[edit on 11-11-2005 by Dronetek]


i am sure that how the other side feal when they watch US forces making attacks and videoing it to show to the american public



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 07:23 AM
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So if you want to get the attention of posters in these forums, you must post videos of US soldiers being killed.

I posted a series of neat videos where US soldiers were doing the ass kicking and none of you cared to post in it.



Originally posted by xu
I notices that he wounds his targets rather than killing them, even one of the shots was to the leg if Im not wrong. this could be considered both an upside or a downside depending on where you look at it. Im sure his talent is out of question since he "is" a sniper and have hours of experience with it and I dont think if someone is stepping into that scene with a sniper riffle doesnt know where to land his bullet consciously, if that was the case he would miss at least half of them. besides accuracy comes with experience which he has, so the point of him being a badshot and with that reason he is only able to wound his tagets, is not sound.

it doesnt differ in terms of outcome if he kills or wounds a soldier because, if he kills the soldier that soldier is out of the scene and if he wounds the soldier that soldier is also out of the scene shipped back to mainland. so maybe, Im saying " maybe " here the sniper is going for the wound only method. you may think about the deahtoll, why should he chose to wound instead of kill thus not raising the deathtoll then, well maybe he knows that the numbers could be tampered with.

reverse the situation if you lack the virtue of empathy:

the iraqis invaded the USA with a false claim of them posessing antimatter bombs and them being a threat to the world peace. and eventually and apparently they suceeded and installed a puppet government which would fight against the local insurgents ( American patriots in this case) under the name of USA Government. and one of the insurgents, say a boy from TX equips his sniper riffle and shoots the iraqi soldiers but not to kill just to wound, in this reverse situation would you prefer him to kill them raher than wound. well I actually would respect this desicion as Im sure the family and friends of the wounded also would.

choosing sides blinds so many people, and with the cost of just reasoning.




No sir. Those are mostly kill shots. Quit trying to down play it.

[edit on 12-11-2005 by Dronetek]



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 07:42 AM
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It's true the Americans will probably be so angered by the video and I, whom obviously is against the Iraq War, felt angered by it too. However, we have to be critical, look it through the other side. The U.S forces too are responsible for countless killing of insurgents.

I have a video showing an insurgent shooting while hiding in this torn down building and then he gets blown up by allied shelling.

War sucks. It creates hate in everyone.



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by Heartagram
I have a video showing an insurgent shooting while hiding in this torn down building and then he gets blown up by allied shelling.


No, you have a video of a Palestinian being taken out by Israeli tank. That is an old video.



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by Dronetek

Originally posted by Heartagram
I have a video showing an insurgent shooting while hiding in this torn down building and then he gets blown up by allied shelling.


No, you have a video of a Palestinian being taken out by Israeli tank. That is an old video.


Well, whatever it is, don't it too give the same effect as this video does? If it doesn't than it just mean that you're being biased. Personally, I believe war is hell on earth. Juba killing American troops, Isreali tank shooting down Palestinian using a shell round, Hamas blowing up themselves and killing women and children and U.S Special Forces mocking the dead.

I never agreed to idea of war in the first place.


Ram

posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 08:39 AM
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War is not a place for sense... Nothing makes sense in a war..
They kill to make sense but that dosn't make sense.. No voice are heard but fear..



Buddhist Monk Immolates Self In War Protest

It's terrible...

These video's makes no sense... It's so sad when humans do not communicate..



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 09:09 AM
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War is not a place for sense... Nothing makes sense in a war..


Give this man a cigar. This is one of the smartest statements Ive ever seen posted in these forums.



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 09:24 AM
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As it looks Juba has become a legend. Found a new much better quality of this video when i was looking for more info. Also it is a bit diferent.

www3.rapidupload.com...



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 09:39 AM
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This Juba guy knows his stuff. From what I can tell He does not care if he kills with the shot or not. All He wonts to do is put FEAR into the minds of the our boys. I would like to know what the words are on the song that is played on the video with the shots. It might help to get into his head.
Then I would not mind to adding a 50cal to that head too.
I do not think We need to be over there in the first place. This is just BS with our guys being used


[edit on 12-11-2005 by Mr101Hazardous]


Ram

posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Dronetek


Give this man a cigar. This is one of the smartest statements Ive ever seen posted in these forums.


Well - i could give you another one...

Did you know -
The ones that fall quickly - Theire soul still stand up.

Body goes down - But sometimes the soul just dont understand it...And it just keep standing... You know what im saying...?

You can't see it on the camera...

I once read a story bout and guy that remembered in he's past life - he was an indian..
This guy remembers that he was facing some cowboy dudes... With pistols..or whatever caliber they had... They went into a fight..over some BS.. And the cowboys killed him...

After he was dead he recall himself running around trying to bash the 2 men who killed him - but found out nothing happend cause he was both invisible and a ghost..

And iv'e also read some stories bout soldiers...Dying on battlefield.. And they just fly out their bodies...Some come back and tell these smart stories... Wich change their lives totally..

That is what war is about...man!

A quick exit.. And a quick rebirth.

People have died like this through all history... In Muud - in rain - Inside Napalm... Inside a tank.. Airplanes ..whatever. You know the story.

Can you say H I R O S H I M A...

Big badabum!!! Great caliber... A great show..huh?

But i know... It makes you feel proud... To be masters of life and death.. Or atleast a part of it..

Did they really waste that JUBA dude...?
So where is he's twin? There must be more Jahubas out there.



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 11:07 AM
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iraqi snipers and US snipers, is Iraqi snipers dont shoot at civilians and ambulances.

bodrul

I Loove your avatar, SALADIN ROCKS!!!

if only he was alive today



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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ooooo

/golf clap

Seriously this is all they got? The best they can do? So this is what it's like to realiise you've been crushed, youre only hope is a half assed sniper


let me get af ew things right
it's suppose to be

BOOOOOOOOM

HEADSHOT

BOOOOOM

HEADSHOT


anyone can shoot anyone from a distance... wow an amateur, yeah a single sniper is going to drive us away from teh oil


ROLFMAO

it's great one can justify murder in their own minds do you not agree?


lol all of us are right and none of us are wrong.



posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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Ram: Now you are just scaring me.


Originally posted by Syrian Sister
iraqi snipers and US snipers, is Iraqi snipers dont shoot at civilians and ambulances.


The insurgents have been known to use abulences rigged with VBIEDs. Your assertion that Iraqi snipers dont kill civilans is laughable. How could you even back up a statement like that?

[edit on 12-11-2005 by Dronetek]


Ram

posted on Nov, 12 2005 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Dronetek
Ram: Now you are just scaring me.


Sorry.

Well war scares the beep* out of me too...
I myself was in the army for only one year... I was a pretty good gunner.. Had LMG (large machine gun)... I could shoot down four figure/targets in one short burst..
But still - I can't agree to the purpose of war... I believe the world needs to stop that BS.
Heck! i even tried throw a few nades. mount bajonets - and kill dolls.. And do the war cry..scream...
Close combat... And anti tank - anti personel mines... Plastic explosives and detonator..

Short fuse and long...

Still i believe in reincarnation... And i guess it shows itself when i see people get killed on camera...

I don't care if it's him or the other foe... I care about Earth... And war rips my guts out...and makes me say stuff.
I don't talk for presidents or other political persons.. I talk for the sake of the Earth and what i feel....

Who cares what guns they use - Or if they aim for the head or torso...

The thing is - that it's wrong...doin it... But i know it's hard to understand , cause this planet never has seen anything else but war...

It's insanity... As one dude once said...

All the children are insane... Think it was a song of some sort...

And that is true.

[edit on 12-11-2005 by Ram]



posted on Nov, 13 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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www.theanalysis.net...


They have never seen Juba. They hear him, but by then it's too late: a shot rings out and another US soldier slumps dead or wounded.

There is never a follow-up shot, never a chance for US forces to identify the origin, to make the hunter the hunted. He fires once and vanishes.

Juba is the nickname given by American forces to an insurgent sniper operating in southern Baghdad. They do not know his appearance, nationality or real name, but they know and fear his skill.

"He's good," said Specialist Travis Burress, 22, a sniper with the 1-64 battalion based in Camp Rustamiyah. "Every time we dismount I'm sure everyone has got him in the back of their minds. He's a serious threat to us."
Gun attacks occasionally pepper the battalion's foot and mounted patrols, but the single crack of what is thought to be a Tobuk sniper rifle inspires particular dread.

Since February, the killing of at least two members of the battalion and the wounding of six more have been attributed to Juba. Some think it is also he that has picked off up to a dozen other soldiers.

In a war marked by sectarian bombings and civilian casualties, Juba is unusual in targeting only coalition troops, a difficult quarry protected by armoured vehicles, body armour and helmets.

He waits for soldiers to dismount, or stand up in a Humvee turret, and aims for gaps in their body armour, the lower spine, ribs or above the chest. He has killed from 200 metres away.

"It was the perfect shot," the battalion commander, Lt Col Kevin Farrell, said of one incident. "Blew out the spine.

"We have different techniques to try to lure him out, but he is very well trained and very patient. He doesn't fire a second shot."


one shot one kill. not one shot and they return fire.

www.armytimes.com...

www.break.com...

Pfc. Stephen Tschiderer, a native of Mendon, N.Y., and a medic with E
Troop, 101st “Saber” Cavalry Division, attached to 3rd Battalion, 156th Infantry
Regiment, 256th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, was shot in the
chest by an enemy sniper, during a routine patrol in west Baghdad.
While Tschiderer was relaying information to the truck commander of his
M114 Humvee, an enemy sniper team prepared to engage him from inside of a
cushioned silver van being used as a mobile sniper’s nest. This nest was lined
with numerous bed mattresses to muffle the sound of a Dragonoff sniper rifle
fired through a hole just big enough for the shooter to engage his target of
choice.
Tschiderer was knocked to the ground from the sudden impact of the
sniper’s bullet. The bullet only seemed to have fazed this Soldier as, adrenaline
pumping, he sprang right back up in order to take cover and locate the enemy’s
position.
The sniper was unsuccessful in his mission, due to the stopping force of
the Tschiderer’s daily wardrobe, his protective body armor, which saved his life.
“I knew I was hit, but was uncertain of the damage or location from the
hit,” Tschiderer said. “The only thing that was going through my mind was to take
cover and locate the sniper’s position.”
“The shot came from my 12 o’clock position from a silver van parked
across an intersection about 75 meters from my location.” said Tschiderer.


wen u fire one shot u get the hell out. not start screaming Allah Akbar!!!!! in anicase he fires just one shot and the soldier gets up and hides away to call for reinforcements.


Due to his heroic actions and quick decisions, Tschiderer located the
enemy while he took cover and alerted the rest of his team on patrol. As the
Saber team engaged and disabled the sniper’s position, two terrorists fled on
foot, leaving a blood trail that came from the wounds of the enemy sniper.
A cordon and search was immediately set up and Tschiderer assisted his
team in the search of the two terrorists. The driver of the silver vehicle was
detained by a team from B Co. 3-156th Inf. Bn. while Tschiderer and a team from
B Company, 4th Battalion, 1st Iraqi Army Brigade, continued to follow the blood
trail which led them to the yard where the wounded sniper lay in pain.


at least dis sniper possibly Juba himself goes for soldiers instead of civilians like the rest of the insurgents who kills anione who is even close to the Americans.



posted on Nov, 13 2005 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
at least dis sniper possibly Juba himself goes for soldiers instead of civilians like the rest of the insurgents who kills anione who is even close to the Americans.


Yeah, I give him credit for that.. If he feels his country is illegally occupied and violated and is simply fighting back then more power to him.



posted on Nov, 13 2005 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Lysergic
Seriously this is all they got? The best they can do? So this is what it's like to realiise you've been crushed, youre only hope is a half assed sniper

Even if he misses, I think its not very good for Morale, to know that a Sniper is Aiming them everytime they leave the armored vehicle.

Maybe he does not want them dead, it looks like he is Aiming not to get a Head Shot.



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