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When a kid told me he had taken Ecstasy, here's the sort of conversation we'd have: "Listen, guy, are you sure it was really Ecstasy? Maybe it was Doliprane." When I said that, I'd nod my head up and down. "Yeah, I'm not sure, in fact." "So you think it was Doliprane?" still nodding my head. "Yeah, it was Doliprane." [...]
We had reached the military site Al-Rashid on an overcast, dark and sinister day. [...] When we stopped, I saw ten Iraqis, about 150 yards away. They were under forty years old, clean and dressed in the traditional white garment. They stayed on the side of the road waving signs and screaming anti-American slogans. [...] That's when I heard a shot pass just over our heads, from right to left. I ran into the middle of the street to see what was happening. I had barely rejoined Schutz when my guys unloaded their weapons on the demonstrators. It only took me three seconds to take aim. I aimed my sights on the center of a demonstrator's body. I breathed in deeply and, as I exhaled, I gently opened my right eye and fired. I watched the bullets hit the demonstrator right in the middle of his chest. My Marines barked: "Come on, little girls! You wanna fight?"
Those demonstrators were the first people I killed. [...] That had a hell of an effect on me. What an adrenaline, rush, #! Fear becomes a motor. It pushes you. It had more of an impact on me than the best grass I ever smoked. It was as though all those I had ever hated, all the anger that was accumulated in me was there in that being; you feel like you're absorbing life like a cannibal. You're really happy with yourself; you feel really powerful and everything becomes clear. You reach nirvana, like a white luminous space. But after a few hours, you come down from nirvana and find yourself in dark waters; you swim in a pool of mud and the only way to go back to that other feeling is to kill again. [...]
[...] Captain Schmitt came towards me and asked me, very calmly: "Are you OK, Chief-Sergeant? [...]" "- No, Captain. I'm not OK." "- Why not?" I answered without hesitation: "It's a bad day. We killed a lot of innocent civilians." "- No. It's a good day," he retorted in an authoritarian tone. Before I had time to answer, he had already moved away from me with a confident tread.
Kill! Kill! Kill! by Jimmy Massey (with Natasha Saulnier), published by Editions du Panama, 390 p., 22 Euros
So what broke this career marine so thoroughly? It happened, he said, the first time he killed a group of civilians at a checkpoint. They didn't stop at the right spot, so Massey says, he and his comrades "discharged our weapons." At the moment he realized what they'd done, Massey says, he "got a conscience," and all the power the US military's patriotic rhetoric had over this man's mind was gone. That was the beginning of the end for Massey's stay in the Iraq and the marines. The killing of civilians in this fashion at checkpoints in Iraq is, according to this witness and a simple google search, a "common story." Johns Hopkins University and the British medical journal Lancet have estimated that as many as 100,000 Iraqi civilians have lost their lives due to this war. How many Iraqi humans, whether wounded themselves or having had members of their families wounded or killed deal with the same nightmares as Jimmy Massey? It's his question, and a good one. Massey now travels the world, speaking out against war, as a true believer in the Greatness of American power, turned steadfast opponent of war and its consequences.
"I took part in the decapitation of 10 Iraqis, all of them policemen," a man who gave his name as Muhammad Hamud Muhammad Musa and claimed he was Sudanese, told the US-financed Iraqiya television station.
"I was paid $50 for each beheading even though I'd been promised a lot more."
Originally posted by deltaboy
they didnt stop at the right spot? at a checkpoint. and after wat we have seen wat happens wen people get to close, Marines and soldiers dont take chances. yes its a tragedy wen soldiers have a split second decision to fire or not after seeing other comrades getting killed by people who dont dress like soldiers and dont carry revealling weapons.
Originally posted by Souljah
I just wanna ask, why is this book not pubished in the States, but in France?
When ex-marines want to critisie the Military, they are just removed.
Nobody dares to go against the Military.
Nobody wants to see the Real Deal in Iraq.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Gee, Souljah, it could be said the same of you. Seems you have ignored a LOT of stuff while you have done nothing but dig up garbage to throw at the U.S.
Single-minded, myopic people are rarely taken seriously, and neither is anything they find as "evidence" to support their rants. You might think about that.
Ever thought about why maybe his friends and fellow Marines shun him? Oh, yeah, because they are cold-blooded killers and he is now a broken man who has realized what an animal he was and wants to confess and make right with God, right?
Maybe there's another possibility. Maybe he's just another dirtbag who wants to write a book and make bunches of money. Maybe he's just another one of those little creeps who you'll find in bars all over the world, trying to impress people with made up stories. Mayube there are no American publishers who want to get involved with such a creature.
By the way, you quote the American constitution. What do you know about it? Are you saying that the U.S. Marine Corps has told all the publishers not to touch it? Hmm. Interesting. Well, I suppose that you can give evidence that all the publishers were contacted andthey all declined based upn threats, cohersion and intimidation, right?
Gee, an anti-American book. I would never have thought that one could find that on French E-Bay! Not the French!?!
Originally posted by skippytjc
Souljah, dont confuse that fact that I post on your threads with my ability to see your rants. You have been comfortably ignored for quite some time now. I only can assume what you muse from other people replies. And of course the uter predictability of your typical content.
So if you feel that I am ignoring you or your topic, its because I am. But that wont stop me from posting my thoughts on what others are replying with.
Originally posted by Souljah
no publishing houses in US have the Guts to print it - probably if they did print it, the goverment would put them out of work in a jiffy.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Gee, Souljah, it could be said the same of you. Seems you have ignored a LOT of stuff while you have done nothing but dig up garbage to throw at the U.S.
Single-minded, myopic people are rarely taken seriously, and neither is anything they find as "evidence" to support their rants. You might think about that.
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Originally posted by dbates
O please! Let's not even go there. You mean to tell me that you actually believe or have the slightest shred of evidence that a publisher would be shut down for printing this? That's laughable. Don't believe every thing you read on truthout.org or antibush.com. Freedom of the press is written into the Constitution, and unless you can find some proof that this guy was shut out or threatened you're just making wild baseless accusations.
The real truth is that this is just anther anti-Bush leftist that's trying to make a quick buck. If this guy really felt bad for what he did, and wanted to get the word out, then why is he charging $100 a pop for people to hear his story. Just look at his website. It even states it at the very top of the page, "Antiwar activist". He feels so strongly about his experience that he wants to get the word out....for a price of course. It's just about the money for him.
Originally posted by Souljah
Why didn't they print it then in the Land of the Free Press? How come, the book has been published in France then?
Originally posted by dbates
Someone's not listening. The point was that it's much easier to sell "I hate the U.S.A." books in France than in the U.S.A. He's not selling it in the U.S. because he knows that he couldn't even recover advertising cost here. In France the book sells itself.
Originally posted by Souljah
I think your problem is, that whenever somebody says something against your current goverment he is immediatly ANTI-USA, AMERICAN HATER.
Wrong.
They are the True Patriots.
Originally posted by 12 12 2012
A true patriot like YOU? All I can say is I wish you would go to a war torn repressive middle eastern country and be a patriot...I think we all know how that would turn out don't we. Skippy wouldnt have to put you on IGNORE anymore.
As far as the book goes, I don't think it is a matter of "THEY (GOVERNMENT) WON'T LET HIM SELL IT" it is more a matter of "THEY (WE THE PEOPLE) WON'T BUY THIS LOAD OF CRAP!
So the author can keep smoking his weed or popping his ectasy, and keep spewing lies in France to make a few bucks to fund his drug habit! Yeah...doing drugs is really the military way!
Please...you should save your bandwidth for something REAL!
from Souljah
When ex-marines want to critisie the Military, they are just removed.
Nobody dares to go against the Military.
Nobody wants to see the Real Deal in Iraq.
by Mirthful Me:
Back on topic...
War On Terrorism » Confessions of a Marine
He also recounts several episodes at checkpoints where civilian cars failed to stop and their unarmed occupants were shot to death.
The French journalist who helped him write the work, Natasha Saulnier, said she believed the US companies were reluctant to touch the book because its "controversial" nature
Massey, a chubby-cheeked man with short hair and glasses, said in the lobby bar of a Paris hotel that the casual violence exhibited by him and his men was the deliberate result of combat training approved by the very highest US authorities.
His publisher said that, while an English language version of the book was still pending, a Spanish edition would be coming out early next year.
-- some of whom see the book as score-settling by a disgruntled Marine forced to leave the services -- Massey has received significant interest in his book in France.