Originally posted by iwilliam
Now, I'd almost bet anything, that if you showed these pics to 10,000 people who had never seen them before (and who were not familiar with the
"reptoid alien" theory) I just about guarantee that some of them might describe it as "frog like" while others would see something "reptilian." I'm
not necessarily defending the view that Lovecraft had secret knowledge, or visions, or whatnot... but IMHO yours is a very weak objection-- especially
on a point like this.
Not to burst your bubble, but the Deep Ones, to which I believe you're referring, are described as more than just frog-like. He describes them as
being fish-like, man-like and even dog-like at one point. Further, the Deep Ones weren't aliens. They had evolved naturally in the seas, as we evolved
on the land and, as the story tells us, were distantly related to humanity which is how they were able to interbreed. Though their genes aggressively
asserted themselves as the child aged.
However, if a student of the occult combs through the Simon Necronomicon, he will quickly realize that the book was indeed written by
someone with a working knowledge of the occult. The book describes a number of rituals, most of which are smaller workings. However, the book goes
into quite a bit of detail regarding a series of rituals intended to guide the magician through a series of "gates" (I think this is the term used, if
I remember correctly-- it's been years since I've read any part of the book.) What is being described in this section is very similar to the practice
of "pathworking" which is a major goal in some systems of western occultism.
Some might describe it as an "astral journey," others a "vision quest." Point being, the parallels are quite obvious to anyone with a little bit of
knowledge in that area.
I have also encountered a person or two over the years who swore up and down that the rituals. work.
Point being, they are based on some actual occult theory / practice.
While I do not disagree with you there, I will point out the Simon Necronomicon was actually published 40 years after Lovecraft died. And while this
in itself does not disprove the existence of another book, I'm sure it's obvious to everyone that content has no relation to authenticity. The Simon
Necronomicon has no information in it, that a studious researcher could not discover on their own. While it may contain some very accurate and in
depth workings on ritual or whatever, that information is not 'privileged.' It doesn't tell you anything you couldn't have learned yourself simply by
putting the hours of research in.
One thing that I don't understand is why so many people who insist Lovecraft was talking about all true things instantly ascribe an occult or magical
nature to his stories. Very rarely did he actually venture into the realms of magic and fantasy. If you had actually paid any attention to the
stories, you would see they are (to put it simply) alien invasion stories. Beings from another Universe are attempting to drag the Earth away for some
hellish purpose. If we had Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum in a lead role, this would be Independence Day. Except better.
While many of the characters in the stories interpret what they see as magic, quite often he goes to lengths to highlight the possibility that
whatever it is conforms to laws of physics, or that mathematics are involved.
In essence, he tells us that the science of more advanced and nefarious beings, is like magic to us. And does that mean he 'knows the truth?' Don't be
silly! All he's doing is telling us something we already knew. Indeed, Arthur C. Clarke put it best when he said:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
And that is all Lovecraft does. He presents us with something against which we can do nothing. He doesn't need to tell us how it works, because we
don't know. All we know is that the Old Ones exist between the places we know, and that Yog Sothoth is the Gate, the Key and the Guardian of the Gate.
Why? Doesn't matter. How? It'd make your head pop.
The recurring theme in his works is that whatever is out there is beyond anything we can comprehend, and that anything they have or can do, is equally
incomprehensible. When faced with something we can't comprehend we call it magic or sorcery. All Lovecraft was doing is giving us a good bit of
sci-fi, blanketed by fantasy, with a heap of terror and insanity on the side.
((I apologise if this is a tad blunt, or offends, but I get incredibly angry when people say Lovecraft MUST have plagiarised his stories from
another source. It completely invalidates his genius, and discounts the simple creativity and imagination he had.))
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