posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 07:15 PM
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
I know that this idea has been bandied about in various Christian circles for the last ten years or so. My goal here is to hone this into a working
hypothesis that can be tested and validated/disproven.
So, here are some axia to start with. I'm not saying they are true, but they'll need to be researched in order to further or discount the
1. If aliens are demons, then aliens should have capabilities similar to those reported in classical angelologydemonology; they should be able to
pass through solid matter, they should be telepathic and telekinetic.
2. If aliens are demons, then they must be disguising themselves for some dark purpose. What happens when to the people who try to "tell the
world" about their true nature?
3. Assuming they are actually fallen angels, aliens should actively seek worshipers, and trying to create a cult that serves them.
4. They would probably attempt to refute organized religion.
5. The traditional modes of protection from demons ought to work on aliens, too. Such as saying the Lord's Prayer (for Christians), Painting the
"hand of Fatima" on your house (for Muslims), or praying the prayer for angels to drive away Dybbukim (for Jews). I wonder what the non-Patriarchal
religions use as defense from evil. It would be interesting to see if these have ever been used to try and protect repeated abductees.
Now, somebody take this idea and run with it. Debunking it is fine, especially if you can do so by responding to these axia, or adding to them!
Two issues here. The "alien" issue in and of itself can be divided in to the SETI science mainstream and the UFO culture. I assume you are
probably referring to the UFO meme culture more than the mainstream SETI science culture. Often the two parallel one another (Paul Davies and David
Darling seem pretty open-minded for mainstream scientists, even Michio Kaku at times). In general, however, the Astrobiology and UFO cultures are far
apart in ways that are as much methodological and philosophical as anything necessarily substantive.
What is ironic is that the same methods of "debunking" used against UFO's have been increasingly used against SETI and Astrobiology. The same
character assassinations and ad hominems have been employed against mainstream scientists. Odd, but when Richard Dawkins speculated on the
possibility of alien genetic experiments on Earth it was not only Ben Stein and Creationists who attacked him, but an odd Cointelpro-ish movement of
atheists shortly thereafter rose up against him as an insurgency of sorts. It seemed to happen suddenly, as if Dawkins violated a neo-Darwinian taboo
as much against any alien interventionism as against traditional religion. The insurgency is not over aliens, but over other issues, particularly
feminism the usual cultural concerns, but the nature of the movement itself seems to parallel other movements meant to destabilize leaders of
movements that have nefarious controllers.
Prof. Dawkins is a scientist, and has to explore a phenomenon. This means that any atheist ideology must take second place to the need of a scientist
to explore reality. That is dangerous for controllers. I am not in his camp (I believe in a Spiritual Reality) but I do believe that if he did
explore UFO's and conspiracies in an honest way then he would be on this Forum doing his part. As it is, he still probably has blinders in these
OK, to the point here. Sorry about meandering. You are suggesting that UFO's are either alien or demon. Some say they are angels. Others have
thrown in evolved dinosaurs. Often people chose combinations of these. Add Carl Jung and his manifestations of the unconscious. May I suggest that
at least part of this phenomenon might be Earth-bound, as Vallee seemed to suggest? Might we look at some aspects of the UFO phenomenon as a psyop of
some elements on Earth?
1) A possible cover for genetic experiments
2) A possible cover for mind control
3) Hidden and suppressed technology of a very Earth-bound origin.
I do not know if that is the real story here, but it might be an area to look as opposed to following aliens or demons around.