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Originally posted by torbjon
“If the aliens are so advanced then why do they (fill in the blank)” is a fallacy. We don’t know that they are “advanced”, building an argument upon that supposition is pointless.
Originally posted by Akuzar
Thank you Phood. You guys need to read the book Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs who I might add is a highly notable source. Open your mind for a second, just a second, (its harder thatn it sounds) and think about all the evidence that is NOT leaked to the public. All that concrete evidence the government hides. You can't deny that its there because you dont know. We have some idea of the happenings in A51 based on eyewitness accounts of ex-members that used to work there. The gov can't sensor these people because it would only strengthen their claims. The gov only leaks out certain information to allow people to fill the rest of the story with their imaginations (which is soley based on media otherwise it wouldnt be so pessimstic) so that people can easily disregard it and live their happy pathetic lives ignorant of the truth. Honestly, don't patronize me Frosty because you and I are at the same level of ignorance when it comes to these matters. As for other planets, there ARE other planets with water and sunlight which is all that is necessary for life. That doesnt mean that life is complex but there very well could be life. As for ideas, there is no such thing as "making something up" every idea stems from one or more old ideas unless you discredit the philosophy of Des Cartes, which wouldnt surprise me. Think before you reason my friends.
Originally posted by Frosty
Think about all the evidence that is available to the public. There is none. Why would there be secret evidence? Answer: because there is none to begin with so people make up stories like 'the government is hiding information'. THe easiest thing to do is to blame the government for witholding because of the already existing supsicions of the public towards government. It is easy to just say its secret, unclassified or hidden while you have no evidence.
"UFOs are real and they may come from outer space....photographs and various materials show scientifically that there are more advanced people piloting the saucers and motherships."
-General Kanshi Ishikawa, Chief of Air Staff of Japan's ASDF, in a statement in 1967.
"Behind the scenes high ranking officers are soberly concerned about UFOs, but through official secrecy and ridicule many citizens are led to believe that the unknown flying objects are nonsense. . .To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personell."
-Admiral Roscoe Hillencoter, former director of the CIA, at a 1962 NICAP press conference in Washington D.C.
Originally posted by torbjon
Medical practitioners have access to the same data, yet arrive at different conclusions. Egyptologists have access to the same data yet arrive at different conclusions. UFO nuts have access to the same data, yet come up with different stories *shrugs*
Originally posted by Phood
I do see the sceptics' points, but do you really think that the US government, Brazilian government, Canadian Government etc really investigated nothing but a big hoax and series of misconceptions?