Originally posted by crusader
I will not have animosity towards whites, but thta doesn't mean to say, I am not racist, i should marry someone outside, my race.
And here you were saying that race has a biological basis, whereas in reality what you are talking about is a sociological and psychological
phenomenon. I noticed this before when you had less of a problem with non-whites who weren't black, the gripe you have is an issue with the people
who purchases your ancestors, and you see marrying into them as a selling out of your ancestors to the very people that oppressed them. Indeed, they
were probably pretty resentful of the people that had enslaved them and might very well be 'upset' that their descendants would socially and
physically mix with the oppressors. But, of course, they'd be foolish for thinking so, and the mixing is inevitable. As we speak genes are slowly
trickling across the arbitrary 'racial' lines; they pose no barrier to genes.
Anyways, I want my children to llok like me, not a hybrid.
Your children will allways have half of your genes, irregardless of the other person. And what does that really have to do with you having a problem
with other blacks breeding out of the race, what do you care what their kids look like, and how does this personal issue of yours really relate to
preserving the 'race' as a whole. Indeed, it doesn't. Like noted before, the global population of chimps has more genetic diversity/variance than
the global population of humans, all humans are practically identical. Any differences you think you perceive are entirely in your own head, when you
get down to it. Your kids will never be composed of more than 50% of your genes, any 'not sameness' is comming from the mother of the offspring,
and its the same amount whether she is black white or chinese.
Also, with the slavery bit, no one now is responsible for it and it makes little sense to hold a grudge like that. You keep saying you aren't racist,
but your entire rationale is that whites carry, as a racial characteristic, this guilt for slavery (ie that which would make your anscestors spin in
Heck, if anything, I'd think that your ancestors would be more resentful if you married someone from the particular tribes of black-sellouts who
literally sold them to the whites. The enemy within is greater than the enemy without no?
"Don't mix with those dirty subhumans, preserve the bloodlines"..............you said that, I didn't.
But what is the basic motivation behind the ideal of preservation of the race if not a desire to prevent its greatness from being diluted by mixing
with something lessor? You obviously aren't saying that blacks are subhuman, but the idea that you do accept, 'no race mixing', ultimately stems
from at least a primitve gutteral version of the above. Its the taboo against zoophilia, the other races are viewed as animals, and you shouldn't
breed with animals (which, of course, is a good taboo).
were different races put here on Earth to interbreed? If so then why did God make races?
Jesus doesn't seem to say anything about not breeding with blacks or chinese. I don't buy into the whole arguement anyway, but look at it this way.
God made man. He didn't make everyone identical, so there is variation. Now foolish man looks at this god-wrought variation, and says 'there are
differences, there are different types of men'. For god its all the same, its just people that he made, man, in his parochial wordly viewpoint, puts
the wrong ideas upon it. Even if every race mixed together today, but variability was maintained (as indeed it would), then men would simply say 'we
don't have those old races, we have entirely different ones now, not that races had been unified. Just like the old example with italy. Where once
there was dozens of races, now there's only one, the italian race. Heck, even thats not recognized and its subsumed into the 'white' race. This
is because of people thinking and applying their cultural ideas, not because of a real biological basis.
Can an African American, or American Indian, or Asian person not have pride in their race as well
If you think about it, what the heck does any person with a particular melanin concentration have to do with any other particular person with a
roughly similar concentration? People can be proud of what they want, but ultimately these prides are baseless.
Are there different races because God wanted us to learn to get along with someone who looks different? Why race
Thats the thing, there is no race. Its an invented thing, an idea.
If I were Catholic and only wanted to date other Catholics for religious reasons, that too would be a terrible thing??
Well, yeah, it kinda is no? Why not treat people as individuals, rather than 'black' or 'white'. I can understand at least that with religion,
there is the issue of salvation, and a different religion wouldnt' get salvation, so there's allways that. But most people tend to think that
'good people' in general are 'saved', so that shouldn't really be much of an issue.
In my eyes, the more we have to walk on eggshells when talking about race and racism, the more of a problem it actually becomes.
I daresay that most of us aren't walking on eggshells, we're not repeating some PC tripe to present ourselves as good people or to save face. Hell,
I don't care wtf people here think about me.
I was speaking of my children specifically, not anyone else's
Fair enough, but why would there really
be a problem with your kids if they were part oriental or part native american or something? Sure,
they'd look different, and that can make people uncomfortable, but thats really just a matter of 'getting used' to something that is unusual and
Or to put to the fact how is it racist that a young white male want to marry his own kind?
Because of the motivation, the motivation is that you don't want to mix with another race, because that race is something less than yours. You want
to preserve your race, you don't want to tint it with an impurity, a 'something other'. Its fundamentally racist.
Listen What if I am attracted to only Black females,ONLY.
But you're not so thats irrelevant. There are hotties for every 'race'.
as a white male who would not marry a black female, am a rascist for not doing so, is the funniest statement I've read all day.
You should try reading the statment about my line right here then, because what you just said is pretty ridiculous. you wont' marry a person
because they are of another race, thats racist
, the entire decision is based on race.
Calling people rascists for not marrying ouside their racial group is not going to miraculously cause a phenemenom of mixed marriages springing
up all around the globe.
Who the heck cares if that happens or not?
Who really cares? I don't. Love is color blind
You just stated that its not.
All this smack about' there are no races', and 'we were genetically altered', and this race is better than that race', is just that: all
A couple of people have explained why there is no such thing as race, stating 'thats crap' hardly makes it so.
I will not let my children be prey to this either.
What do you mean 'fall prey to it', what exactly is the problem with this mentality, even if "we're" wrong and there are races? What are you
saying happens when the race is diluted? That it becomes weak, inferior, it gets dumbed down, what?
But because with every mixed marriage, a certain piece of that specific, original, ageless, and unique group is lost forever.
This is completely and totally wrong. There is no group to begin with, and any child of yours has 50% of their genes in common with you, regardless of
whatever 'race' anyone in particular wants to class them as. You are croatian. Are you saying that there's been a croatian race since the dawn of
man? Of course not, its a recent ephemeral thing, this idea of being 'croatian', and its based on social constructs, such as living in a particular